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Thane Heins Perepiteia.

Started by RunningBare, February 04, 2008, 09:02:26 AM

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cleanfuture

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April 28, 2008, 08:04:04 PM
Quote from: OUman on April 28, 2008, 07:44:26 AM
Quote from: cleanfuture on April 28, 2008, 02:40:54 AM
Quote from: OUman on April 27, 2008, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: blindsangamon on February 05, 2008, 09:45:23 PM


Uli, I suggest you dust off your textbooks about magnetic braking. There is nothing whatsoever mysterious about this. The original poster didn't express it very scientifically, that's true, but the theory behind this is very well established.

This is how a hysteresis brake works:

2. Hysteresis- A strongly magnetic driver is attracted to a "weak" magnetic material (like AlNiCo). Torque is transmitted up to a point where the weak material slips. When this happens, the torque transmitted is constant as the weak material is magnetized and demagnetized, and the two parts move realtive to one another. During this process substantial heat may be generated. The slip torque may be adjusted by changing the realative position of opposing strong magnets on either side of the weak magnetic material.
Howard Schwerdlin
Coupling Product Manager
Magnetic Technologies Ltd. 
http://www.magnetictech.com/

You will find from the further information on the website that the rate of torque transfer (braking) can be manipulated by either aligning or opposing the magnetic field on either side of the hysteresis disc. Opposing poles produce maximum braking and like poles cause the magnetic flux to pass straight through the hysteresis disc and no braking occurs. This can either be done by aligning permanent magnets on either side of the disc (a per website) or with electromagnets. Electromagnetic hystersis brakes do require power input to he coil to manipulate the magnetic field. Having said that, none of these scenarios apply in Thane's setup. If you shorten out a coil arround a conductor subjected to a changing magnetic field, you will create maximum current and thereby heating in the coils. This is what the textbook says and this is called an electric generator, ok? If what you are describing is a hysteresis brake, than Thane has discovered a new type of hysteresis brake. What is it going to be? The effect which Thane is demonstrating is unusual enough for Dr Habash from Ottawa Uni to research it. Are you suggesting that Dr. Habbash does not know what a hystersis brake is also? Maybe you should tell him that. I am sure he will be glad to be enlightened bu you.

Uli


ramset

#1843
April 28, 2008, 08:54:57 PM
now my head is going to explode please elaborate   Chet
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OilBarren

#1844
April 28, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
QuoteIf what you are describing is a hysteresis brake, than Thane has discovered a new type of hysteresis brake. What is it going to be?
Uli

EXACTLY - A HYSTERISIS BRAKE THAT ACCELERATES.

FYI ULI - OUman IS JIM JONES REINCARNATED.

Thane

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