Thane Heins Perepiteia.

[aether22]

YES ABSOLUTELY JUST DUMP IT ALL INTO A CAPACITOR - WHICH I INTEND TO DO
(CHECK OUT LUC'S AWESOME MOTOR/CAP COLLAPSING FIELD CHARGER HERE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7BJQebSgYc

I NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE MY BUGGY AS A DEMO/TEACHING TOOL - PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HC COIL DECELERATION AS REGENERATIVE BRAKING - SO I NEED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDANT VARIABLE: COIL CHOICE
DEPENDANT VARIABLE: BATTERY CHARGING/ACCELERATION
CONTROL VARIABLE: EVERYTHING ELSE. 

IF I GET MY HV COIL HC COIL RATIO RIGHT (AS I ALREADY HAVE) EVERY SINGLE WATT OF HC COIL DECELERATION WILL BE MATCHED OR EXCEEDED BY HV COIL ACCELERATION & CAPACITOR CHARGING.

YOU OUGHT TO SEE THIS IN TOMORROWS VIDEO.

Thane

Very nice, but my suggestion is to also try shorting the HV coils through a bridge rectifier and straight into a battery with possibly a cap in parallel to smooth but not a periodic dumping, see what works best. (you might find the acceleration from the HV coil is not much effected and that it does a decent job of rejuvenating the battery on an aetheric current, or I may be wrong but it would be easy to test)

You have been doing some excellent work!

Addition:

BTW, I just want to float the thought of tests being done with motor types other than induction for those with success with induction motor versions, the indication is that the effect should not be tied soley to induction motors but that is not something that I think anyone can say with a great deal of confidence. (Yes, Thane reported some positive result with a drill but it sounded like a quick and dirty test with unreported results that I guess were underwhelming or potentially inconclusive)

Actually more seriously, I had not really thought about this before but induction motors are not I don't believe very efficient as electric motors go and are even worse when run at the wrong speed (I think their characteristics are not well suited to driving a vehicle. So Thane you might want to see if you can get some decently efficient and well suited motor type and see if you can get the effect working.

Or if you do want to stick to induction motors maybe 3 phase is the way to go, but I'm not going to pretend that's easy to generate onboard.

I think DC and universal motors are the best bet for decent efficiency over a wide range of speeds, or pulse motors. (though I think pulse motors might be a poor choice for Thanes device)

[springfield]

Yes he has had faster speeds and less drag with shorted coils than with the stators removed all together.

@aether, i dont think he said he removed the stators altogether, I think he just moved the coils further away. Also the real test would be to remove the entire generator ie its rotor too nd compare it to that.
-Mike

[springfield]

... induction motors are not I don't believe very efficient as electric motors go and are even worse when run at the wrong speed...

@aether, i think you'll find that induction motors are in fact very efficient indeed when operated propely - but your right if their forced to run at the wrong speed they can be very inefficient indeed.
-Mike

[aether22]

@aether, i dont think he said he removed the stators altogether, I think he just moved the coils further away. Also the real test would be to remove the entire generator ie its rotor too nd compare it to that.
-Mike

'turned away from' is pretty clear IMO, they were removed from the influence of the rotor so in that test they were not involved.

I wasn't aware that induction motor efficiency compared favorably, but if it does as you say it will still be an issue when Thane isn't driving at an efficient speed, even if we assume starting and slow driving are an unimportant portion of the drive, how fast would he need to be going to drive at an efficient speed?

I'm really not sure, but assuming he uses an induction motor and runs it at the frequency god intended (60hz in the US) and assuming what at least 14 inch rims and another 6 inches of tyre minimum (no idea if that's close) and let's say 90% of the synch speed is maximum efficiency (I have no idea, just making up figures here), all up the speed I get is 300kph, or 186 miles an hour.

Now my math may be imperfect but if I'm close with my wonky math that's simply too fast to do without gear reduction.

Now maybe Thanes device improves efficiency enough that you can afford to run it at an otherwise inefficient speed and make it all work but if single phase induction motors with a fixed frequency are what Thane is looking to use I think gear reduction would be highly recommended (Or does Thane care not at all about absolute efficiency only comparable efficiency to the same motor without coils? problem is that shorting coils can lead to acceleration for mundane reasons and I am not sure Thane appreciates that fact and that not every experiment he does rules out such an artifact/explanation)

Anyone care to do a better workup so we can figure out thanes efficiency at various sync speeds without HV coils?

[LarryC]

UPSIDE YOUR HEAD...?

YOU BETTER HOPE SO MISTER - "CAUSE I'LL HIT YOU SO HARD YOUR WHOLE FAMILY WILL DIE"

(that's another quote in jest there Larry)

Oh yes, that's a beauty!  You so much remind me of an old Irish friend, great joke telling, drinking buddy of mine, a last name of Donley.

Cheers, Larry