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Overunity Machines Forum



Peter Davey Heater

Started by storre, February 09, 2008, 11:00:32 AM

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Paul-R

Quote from: DOCV on June 22, 2008, 10:51:00 AM
I keep on seeing the wrong information being given about harmonics.
It is like this
if your fundamental frequency is 50hz as with the AC mains then the resonant frequencies are multiples of that. ie 50 , 100, 150 , 200 and so on. Not as is being stated by some as 50, 100, 200, 400

With respect, I Believe you to be wrong on this matter, and it is VERY important.

It is not about harmonics; it is about octaves.

Octaves double every time. In England, using 50 cycles, the first octave is 100 hz.
The second octave is at 200 hz. The next one is at 400hz. This is crucial to
understanding the method, which has given a COP of 20. This link may be
helpful:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter14.pdf
(I think the important stuff starts at page 21 or thereabouts.

Paul.

devrimogun

Imo there are 4 MAJOR problems within the discussions over the weekend:
1) some of our valuable experimenters including the invaluable @ND are starting to get discouraged but there is no reason for them to, as they did not do the tuningssssss.
2) there is a confusion about the harmonics of 50Hz. (I am on @storre's side)
3) WE HAVE SOMEONE IN XCHURCH! If I were him I would go and visit this old timer with a watt meter. Old men like to talk about their experiences! He will tell many invaluable things! You could easily tell him that we (I am sure everyone here will support this) want to invest on this device if it consumes little power and see what he says!
4) Only one member tried to encourage @green to go and see Davey the others ignored the fact that one of us live in there!


NerzhDishual


@Storre:

Yes, tuning should be the key and even the pitch (pun intended)... :)
yes, I have a way to check the freq (an old sampler and software for ex).
I used to compose music and even acousmatic (concrete) music
(http://freenrg.info/My_Zique/).

But, should I have the patience, the capacity and and the means to tune
this device (it is not like my guitar) is another question. ???

This devices (with random COPS) sound as 'elusive' as a fish... And you can't
tune a fish! (puns intended).  :D

@Paul-R:
Yes, it is about octaves but fifths (DO - SOL) should also work, IMHO.

Best
Nolite mittere margaritas ante porcos.

storre

Yes 5ths I will test for too, after I test for the octave. I will only start making my bells (and will try cones) next week but not understanding why they are hard to tune. Should be just like tuning tubes. Grind and bang, grind and bang :) I know the harmonics can sometimes overcome the fundamental but usually the fundamental sustains longer so just wait a bit.

And since we are trading music I thought I would pitch in some of my compositions :)
http://idisk.mac.com/stevetorrence-Public?view=web

devrimogun

Oh come on ND.
If this community can not solve the mysteries of this device, which device will it uncover?
I will give some reasons:
1) It is the simplest one ever!
2) The inventor is alive!
3) There is one of us who lives where he lives
4) The "how it works" of it seems to be discussed in fair detail and most find it logical. (It may not work the way most of us seem to agree on or it may even be a hoax as some of us including me implied. But for gods sake, lets first try it in the way it is described and we think it may work (1600Hz 3.5 cm inner bell and 4.5cm outer bell and distance tuning) and then throw it into the hoaxes bin if it fails.)

I can relate to your disappointment but do not understand why you insist on
making more experiments before you tune it. (I am sure you have good reasons)
But then, when you do, you should not get discouraged.  :)
With all due respect.