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Peter Davey Heater

Started by storre, February 09, 2008, 11:00:32 AM

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devrimogun

Quote from: greendoor on September 26, 2008, 06:05:47 AM
I've been sitting on some ideas, but I may as well donate them to the party ... it will be interesting to see the spooks rip them apart ...
.. there is awesome energy in resonance.  So if we could use this to tear water molecule bonds apart, and if zero-point energy is involved, as Kanarev suggests, there could be some very interesting energy results.

Congratulations. You did not get discouraged by the negative posts on this topic and continued on working.
Very interesting link that Kanarev's place. One would need to spend many weeks to study his ideas.

Interesting statement about mechanically broken molecular bonds liberating more energy. I believe it could be the physics behind the mechanical (friction) liquid heaters. We are currently trying to build a mechanical heater to heat water in a closed circuit to heat up our homes. I chose the system in the patent that I will try to attach here because of simplicity and adaptability to current heaters that heat water by burning gas and circulate inside radiators in a closed loop system by the use of a pump.

The patent pdf is 300K so I am unable to attach it here.
Holder : Wilfred J Grenier
US Patent No : 4,454,861
Title : Fluid Friction Heater
You can get it from freepatentsonline as it is expired.


Paul-R

Quote from: greendoor on September 26, 2008, 06:05:47 AM
I've been sitting on some ideas, but I may as well donate them to the party ... it will be interesting to see the spooks rip them apart ...

There is a simple way to avoid the whole tuning issue: feedback assisted sustain.... 
This was proposed by me at the UK Free-Energy Conference a few weeks ago. The advantage is
that you have only to find two bells precisely in tune with each other. The disadvantage is that you
have all the amplification to deal with. Don't forget that a Hi-Fi amp, a musician's amp or PA amp
will not give you very high voltages. Pretty paltry voltages, in fact. but the idea should be good.
Since the quality of the waveform should not be critical, it would be possible to design a multi
stage crude amp for the project.
Paul.

Paul-R


DOCV

It's not about being discouraged it's about science plain and simple. One can speculate and throw ideas around as much as you want but at the end of the day one must test these ideas out. The davey heater does not heat water any better than an element. The news item of him showing rapid boiling is only an effect. This has been recreated and efficiency is not overunity. The only person who has made claims to this is Dr Jan Pajak, but he himself has never recreated the effect. Does the Davey heat water quickly...yes by induction. Can one heat water using sound energy...maybe but is davey heating using this effect...highly unlikely.

How to test this out. Instead of tuning the bells to the mains frequency...tune the frequency to a harmonic of the bells. The science is the same only backwards. From this test (if it works) one will determine if the "audio" frequency is responsible for COP over 1 or if there is a dipole effect.

In my opinion the Davey heater has been verified and reproduced exactly as the news insert and their is NO COP of 20 infact their is no COP over 1.

If you are interested in water heaters that have potential to be highly efficient try the Eugene Frenette Patent 4143639 or the one which actually makes claims of overunity that had to be proven in order for the patent to be granted which does use a dipole effect (sorry can't find the reference right now) but it basically acts like a miniature aerial within a cavity the supposedly has a COP over 2. Once again these things need to be built in order to verify the results.   


forest

Interesting...What about of induction of eddy currents directly INSIDE water ? Breaking hydrogen bonds... ??