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Overunity Machines Forum



Working gravity wheel ?

Started by Dgraphic911, February 26, 2008, 11:24:22 AM

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Dgraphic911

I have just joined overunity because i was fascinated with the Charles campbell power wheel, An idea that i think could actually work. But i am not a highly educated person and the ideas that may cause it to fail are not readily apparent to me.  I have always been fascinated with perpetual motion and free energy and thought/think it is still very possible.

Now to the subject of my post, "Working gravity wheel ?"

Hypothetically

I just created a working wheel, I have no idea what it is and am not that savvy with many things. I start searching to see if i created something that already exists. I search the web, Youtube, Goggle, Yahoo and  get directed form one place to the next but don't find anywhere a "WORKING" demonstration of a self spinning wheel.
I do however run across hundreds of posts/ letters and claims from people saying that they are just weeks/ minutes/ one more adjustment away from a working wheel and the battle for free energy is won.
I look at the post date, or the date the paper was written, or the time the video was posted and find that these claims are sometimes weeks,months and even years old.

Based upon my hypothetical working wheel I know that the idea is as simple and groundbreaking as the airplane wing. I comes to me so easily i assume that it must also be what everyone else is talking about. So why is it not here. Why do people make the claim just based on a concept. I assume that many people like to share their ideas so that others can learn from their failures and the forces of gravity can be used someday to better the human race.

BUT. the hypothetical creator of the device is poor as dirt. Would love to share it but does not want to die a poor man. Many have said that the money from interviews and lectures would more than bring riches. But what  would the creator do if he was not that type of person that was going to travel the world explaining the concept. What if he didn't have the education.  What then, also if the idea is as simple as the Lift applied to a wing, once announced everyone will announce of course, we knew that all along, it obvious now. Scientists and scholars will quickly descend upon it improving and modifying the idea and the initial inventor will be forgotten.

My question which may have been answered so feel free to redirect me but, if everyone is weeks/minutes away then what happened to the wheel ? Where are they?
Also.

If anyone is the first to figure out the Secret to harnessing gravitational pull to create repeatable oscillation of a wheel that creates torque and is sustainable. How do they get credit for it. ? Bessel  left so many vague statements about his supposed wheel that any thing that is round and spins could be called a Bessler wheel. But is it really?. Anyone who discovers  a wheel would want the wheel to be there wheel. How does that happen?

helmut

@Dgraphic911
Hypothetically:
If you are able to present a working Wheel,thats nice.
But if you want to get big profit out of it,there is no chance!

You told us to be not highly educated.No Problem with that.
Also most very high skilled ones are not able to convert there ideas i a working model.
Because you have to manage a Produktion circuit.
Than you have to find or build a marketing prossedure.
You will have new best friends Friends very soon,as never happend bevore.
But better not to look out for Partners.Corse they want to make there own
profit and mostly they are not interestet to move just one finger without to be payed
in shares or other needs.
Sorry,but i can give you not a good outlook.

In your place,i would just open source it with my name and if there are pics or docs,put a date on it.
So if it will work as you believe,you might be the one ,
who get the OU price,and be known as the hero guy,who saves the world.

It is yust my opinion.
 
Because:
Many Posters will call you a fraud,bevor you finnished the last instruktion to build one.
If some replikations do not work,the call you a liar.And you will feel as a target.
So what you need first,is nerves as strong as steel ropes.
Yust read the several Forums about small projekts.
Many inventors leave after a view days and do not show up anymore.
Burned Hopes are left. Thats it.

helmut

wattsup

@Dgraphic911

I can understand your apprehensions. Here you will get constructive critisism, mixed with some unrealistic optimmism mixed with a dash of ridicule, all mashed together to give you a god enough idea on if your idea is good or not.

As for holding rights, etc., I posted the following some time ago and am now working on my version 2 with a plastic wheel. The thread is relevant also.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3070.msg45101.html#msg45101
Anyone in the world can now use it as they please to modify and improve. It almost turns on its own as is.

So everything will depend on what your idea is. If it is to change an already existing design by 1/2 a degree, then obviously don't expect major applause, but if the idea is so great that it breaks the barriers of known gravity constrainst, then expect to be recognised. You may not like it, and you may even run from the attention, but that is your choice. Noone made a rule saying the maker of free energy will have a degree from Dale Carnegie. You are who you are and your idea is your idea. Posting it here will only solidify that fact.

Dgraphic911

I do not have a working wheel. Sorry, But .

If their is burried treasure under a spot on a piece of ground, and for hundreds on years people walk past it. And they all say its here somewhere. Then when the person who actually discovers the treasure. Should they "not expect major applause" just because everyone else was so close. Is close really good enough that they can then take credit.

It will most likely be a wheel, so does everyone who said its a wheel get to say "i was right"  "i was almost done"
I did not start this thread to be a antagonist so i hope if it continues that it is not taken that way. Also i want to correct my first post that says i believe Chas's invention to work. I believe his Generator /motor combination to be  a working concept of Over Unity. And i applaud him and others that are using it to further efficiency of eletricity.  I do not believe his gravity wheel works/ AT ALL.

The thought behind my post was, I can see why it may already exist and someone said forget it, I also can see why it did not catch on/purchsed in the 1700's or earlier.


Dgraphic911

@wattsup

Thank you for the redirect, I applaud your efforts and money spent on the pursuit. I looked at your design and would like to interject a laymans opinion. If its not to presumptious of me. I noticed you said in your text that it almost spun. I don't see how going from almost spinning to spinning will then be a multiplyer of torque enough to create any useable force.

I noticed a video on YOUTube of a piece of bismuth so small that its diamagnetic properties allowed it to be repelled by 100lb +_ pull neo magnet. it would repell and fall perpetually. But useless, since any scaling of the bismuth makes it to heavy to be pushed. I amy be misunderstanding that, so if i'm wrong sorry.

Forgive me if i use the wrong names of actions within items.
Also

I have questions, and maybe some answers, i just need to make sure i'm not a moron before i make my opinions known. I wanted to start this thread so that a timeline would be establised.