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[shruggedatlas]

Those people who are successful at OU/FE are very timid to release it to the world.
We live in a world where the unfamiliar is feared.  This usually leads to mob rules,
pitchforks, torches, shotguns, lynchings, and supersonic interceptors.

I see people say this alot, but this is simply not true.  Put free energy aside, for a moment.  Thing about all the other revolutionary innovations that we have seen in the 19th through the 21st century.  Electricity, internal combusion engine, telephone, television, cell phones, integrated circtuit, computers, aviation, vaccines, the Internet, email, etc.  These are truly revolutionary inventions that changed the world.  Yet, by and large, the inventors were not threatened for revealing their inventions, and there were no riots in the streets.  These inventions and others of similar caliber, while perhaps initially criticized by people who did not see their immediate usefulness, generally received a warm response. 

What makes free energy different?  I know, the oil companies do not want to lose their monopolies.  But wait, lots of these great inventions supplanted an existing dominant industry.  Cars replaces the horse and buggy industry.  Light bulbs replaced the candle making industry.  Internet telephony is cutting profit away from the big voice carriers.  The examples are endless.  Heck, look at solar and wind power today.  Is Big Oil hiring hitmen to destroy the solar and wind people?  There is no evidence of this.

[z.monkey]

OU/FE is different because it is a renewable resource of universal proportions.
It is a threat because it doesn't require a manufactured fuel product to sustain it.
The automobile replaced the horse and buggy, but now we are buying gas instead
of oats.  Electric light replaced candles but now we are buying light bulbs instead
of candles.  When OU/FE replaces transmission line power there will be no manufactured
product to replace the resource.  An OU/FE device will produce power continuously
and the are no dues to pay the local monopoly.  The only way that there could be
any sort of monopoly on FE/OU is if the information is suppressed and only "authorized"
manufacturers can produce OU/FE devices.  Well, free information will do away with
any sort of monopoly on OU/FE.  We intend to make information available in such
detail that a middle school kid can produce a device sufficient to last them their
entire lifetime.

But, in retrospect, the powers that be do not advertise that they are actively suppressing
alternative technology.  Also the travesties that occur are very carefully covered, with
sufficient alternative explanations provided which keep the public totally in the dark.
Listen to your spirit, it is the one entity on Earth that won't lie to you.  The OU/FE
endeavor is perhaps the most dangerous thing you can involve yourself in.

I would like to believe that you are on the level.  We can always use another ally.
There are wicked forces in the world.  What is seemingly good, may be in fact be very evil.
Walk carefully and let those who would be your friend earn your trust.

Blessed Be....

[shruggedatlas]

OU/FE is different because it is a renewable resource of universal proportions.
It is a threat because it doesn't require a manufactured fuel product to sustain it.
The automobile replaced the horse and buggy, but now we are buying gas instead
of oats.

I see what you are saying, but just because in other products, say cars versus horses and buggies, we are using a substitute fuel, does not make it any less of a complete loss for the particular industry that is being phased out.  (The people selling oats were not selling oil too.)  For example, if the world went with wind and geothermal and solar energy, and completely phased out fossil fuels, this would be a complete and total loss to the oil-producing nations and for oil & gas industry.  And aside from a few instances of luddite behavior, recent history is fairly free of any mass violent response from the side going into obsolescence.

But anyway, if you have something, good for you, and if you want to keep it secret out of fear for your personal safety, you are within your right.  I also suspect my words are falling on deaf ears in general.  If someone has this irrational fear of going public, nothing I say is likely to persuade them, as they will assume I am one of the men in black.

[Ren]

Yes, I am a skeptic, but I want to see free energy also.  However, I stand by my claim, which, to be precise, is that no one has produced any device that produces more energy that it consumes.  If you have an example of an overunity device that can continually power even a small light bulb for days without any fuel, please, let us see it.  Furthermore, you can even get your $1 Million from the Randi Challenge.

Well a solar panel doesnt consume any energy and it has an output? It is all about how you tap natures energy. A water wheel will continue to turn if placed in a waterfall. Then again you will probably say that water is the fuel. In that case there is no device that does what you say, as there is always a source/fuel. I think the important factor is whether WE have to physically pay for it.

I was reading some interesting information about the simple air compressor the other day. Unconfirmed by myself but coming from a reliable source:

100% percent of the energy consumed to compress air is converted to heat. Capture all that heat and youve got more out than what you've put in no?

[z.monkey]

Hey Ren,
Yeah your right about the solar cell not needing manufactured resources.  It's probably the closest thing to OU/FE that we have so far.  And, in the case or solar cells and OU/FE, the devices it's self is what is manufactured and there is (and will be) a market for these devices.  The output energy is essentially free, or at least gets cheaper the longer the device is running.

In the case of your compressor, you have to put it to the test.  OU/FE means energy out is greater than energy in.  Which in something like a compressor will have several forms of energy that you are dealing with.  The electric motor can be easily measured.  It's power is converted to mechanical energy to compress air.  To measure that you would have to gauge the work that is being done with with the output air.  Then also there are frictional losses that result in heat being generated.  That is also not so easy to measure.  I guess that an regular air compressor is like 25% efficient.  So find a way to measure the energy in, easy, and the energy out, not so easy, and you can verify the results for yourself.

All things that output energy require input energy, and OU/FE is no different.  A solar cell is only like 20% efficient.  It converts photons to electrons.  The reason it is only 20% efficient is that it requires a quantity of photons to make 1 electron.  But the solar cell seems like free energy because we don't have to provide it with fuel to work, the photons are the "fuel".

The water wheel is probably very efficient being a mechanical device, and the efficiency would depend on the coupling between the the wheel and the device doing the work, say a grain mill.  Again the water is the "fuel".

But in the case of OU/FE there is "fuel" also.  Albeit a largely misunderstood fuel.  The all electrical OU/FE exploits a little known source of energy called soft particles.  The OU/FE device scavenges soft particles and breaks them into electrons. The electrons then provide the energy output.  The difference between soft particles and say oil is they cannot be hoarded.  They cannot be accumulated in tanks then sold by a ration.  They occur freely in nature and when captured, instantly break down into electrons.  In this case, unlike solar cells, the captured particle breaks down into electrons.  This makes it a lot more efficient, but still not over 100% efficient.  But because we are not perceiving the soft particles it seems like its free. We measure the exciter power (relatively small) and the collector power (relatively large) and see a power gain, but we cannot measure the portion of soft particles that are captured, so we don't know the true efficiency.  Again I suspect that it will not be more that 100%, and that it does not violate the law of conservation of energy.  BUT, it is a universally available and ultra clean power source, far better than oil.