Ultimate proof for OU/RE?

[alan]

@one: exactly!

RF sparks are also blue right?

[martinzurix]

hee just burnig down iron like electrods in electrowelding dewice. there no extra energy

[innovation_station]

 

yep your right ....

nothing to see here folks .....




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[alan]

From our big friend innovation_station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD5xQmvb5ao

What is the (classical physics) explanation for the spark being bigger when shorted through a coil?
I don't know. Maybe it isn't excess energy.

[Prophmaji]

This is very straight forward, and has to do with the time constants that exist within a given coil winding, vis-a-vis the 'speed of light' time that it takes the given wire to become aligned and conduct. Remember, you will not get conduction in a piece (LENGTH!) of wire immediately on connection to any system with voltage potential, unit the time frame of the 'speed of propagation' of that length of wire has been exceeded. Placing the wire under different loading considerations, with regards to 'mass surrounding it and permeating it' will change that time constant, a common consideration in, for example, simple coaxial wire design. See any simple proper coaxial wire advert in any sales brochure for that exact 'speed of light % on a given cable specification.

What I mean is if, in audio, you take a given coil, a large one, in the henry range..and place it  parallel on  a given audio signal reproduction rail, but leave one end of the coil OPEN, attached to NOTHING, there will be an interesting result.

You will create a specific frequency consideration  in the measured sweep response. This will occur, as a high frequency  where the 'time constant' of the  LENGTH of the coil's wire, combined with the speed of propagation down the wire as a factor of the speed of light, as is normally considered in electrical conductors-due to their design that will DISALLOW 'change' in the signal due to the 'static etheric mass contained in the coil'   'time constant' (the length consideration!)

What will happen, when the open ended conductor is tied to a rail voltage that is attempting to fluctuate.... the existing coil mass loading considerations, in the static sense of that etheric component.. will fire energy INTO the connected rail, in order to stop it from exhibiting CHANGE, as inductors DO (current mass)..but like a incredibly high speed CAPACITOR, who's considerations are solely based on the coil wire length..and it's inherent speed of propagation. This is outside of and NOT related specifically to it's inductive 'current flow active-connected' so called 'normal' applications.

So, in essence, you have a high speed capacitor in this application, that is etherically powered, not an inductor.

It's pure, standard physics as application in the math and theory department, supported by commonly known working theory.

For example, Joseph Newmans motor is a variant of that. The magnetic mass slows the propagation 'time constant rates' that are related to his wire LENGTHS in his coils ONLY..and these constants BECOME the characteristics of  the CAPACITIVE volume of the large 'seeming inductor' ---this provides the extreme grunt. They are big, but they work.

Once again, the capacitive storage of etheric (merely static background load) energy appears ONLY in the 'speed of light propagation factor of the LENGTH of the coil's wire. Not in it's current mass considerations as a 'usual application (series with  the load, under AC considerations, while conducting current).

Essentially..the free electrons, in any given electrical conductor, must polarize into a conductive state, before conductive considerations can take place..and current flows. Speed of propagation is important. Polarizing, as a system of Pre Conduction Loading, is the speed constant . However, if you take it away..the polarization will cease, and you get a collapse back to relaxed alignment. We like to call that elastic pressure of pre conduction polarization.....voltage..potential The chemical analogy? Ionic charge.

I don't know about you..but it reminds me of crystals. Like in....every aspect.

Through etheric mass loading considerations of any given material and/or shape/volume, 'speed of propagation' within those two characteristics,  will dictate the resonant aspects that need be considered for the given device to work.

For example, water has it's own particular resonance considerations concerning the psychical, dimensional, etc. Importantly, as well, so does the interface point between the given metal and the water. The creation of the oxidative compounds and separative efficiencies can be viewed as the paths for determining this particular resonance frequency consideration.