vacuum electrolysis

[rockinricki]

heres my 2 cents, if under vacuum wouldnt that draw the bubbles to the surface quicker and possibly make them pop at the surface faster? therefore creating more usable electrode area? since most poeple have tiny bubbles that cloud up the water and kind of hang around in pergatory too long

You are so right,,,, The bubbles are bigger but the gas is stripped from the SS faster and faster so it gives more room for more bubbles to form and so on,,,, I have found a big increase in gas and less amps because it is easier for the eletrons to do thier job,,,,,, On the ball idea,,, 'postive energy' goes always on the surface of any given metel where as 'negitive' energy will go into the middle of metal or wire,,, read up on Tesla and Victor Schauberger ,,,,cool post as always best wishes RZ

[Creativity]

@vdubdipr
It could be true what u say.That the bubbles are not clustering to form bigger ones is surface tension force of water ,i think.By heating up water surface tension goes low VERY fast(adding detergents will create some reactions in electrolite so is possibly bad idea to lower the tension by using them).

@rockinricki
As we stay here with simple electrolysis,the more amps u have the more mass of HHO is being produced.So having high Amps says u have more mass produced.Having bigger bubbles says not that u produce more gas.There are two things to keep in mind
1)how lower pressure affects the water vapourisation(how much of your gas is water vapour?)
2)how lower pressure affects the minimal volts needed to do the job.
The second question is more or less like this:
One electron has to join ion H+ to create a stable atom,so electrons are being transferred to the gas we produce.So the more electrons u pump into the water the more gas u can make(more electrons per sec is more Amps).We need some minimal Voltage to split water,but maybe with lower pressure bond is being stretched and easier to brake?

I want to use these spheres so i can measure if the voltage can drop.Voltage on the sphere is so easy to control,because charge is spread even across its surface.

I guess the only good measurement of how much (more) gas u r producing under vacuum is to compare the amount of water that is being split.Of course u will have to condensate all the water vapour(let the gases to cool down by placing some ice and salt mixture around the output tube).Measure the water amount before and after some time of the electrolysis.

a)electrolyte volume factor:
I guess that with bigger bubbles we loose more volume of conducting water between the electrodes.So less volume is transporting the ions and less amps can be used,resulting in lower gas production.(bigger resistance of the electrolyte).Can u visualise it?

b)electrode effective surface factor:
As counter acting effect could be that bigger bubbles go faster away leaving the more effective electrodes surface to contact with water(lower resistance of the electrodes).Then more electrons can reach electrolyte resulting in more gas production.

c)electrolite disturbing factor:
As u put more volume through the water it is mixing it very well,maybe ions have to deal with the turbulence of water they travel in (like a ship in a storm)?Also going around the bubble is easier if it is smaller (total trip of ion will be shorter with smaller bubble)?

As u see i have here a lot of factors in my  mind 
I guess the only way to say what is better is to try to test the power suppied levels and amount of slitted water.

One thing is sure:we want the bubbles to go away out of electrode surface as fast as possible and to leave the electrolyte (between the electrodes) as fast as possible also.

[jikwan]

hi guys
i am a hho fanatic undergoing rehabilitation
im allowing one day a week on this hoping itll taper off towards total disinterest
hho investigation has cost me money time running around getting parts days off work and failures
and success in testing
testing is root cause of my troubles

after 100's maybe 1000's hours of study using wire tubes plates
bench tests as well as motor tests............
vacuum electrolysis is the key

you must have looked at the vid links i posted
dont you see anything?

seems to me that engine vacuum SUCKS hydrogen AWAY from the plates (or whatever)
you dont need a blower or irrigator to move the bubbles

this is worth your consideration......
long and narrow plates   say,1"x 6"   naybe 7 plates
eigth of an inch below waterlevel

vacuum's gonna suck evrybit of hydrogen outta there

not so with tall electrodes

big bubbles?  i thought oxygen was big bubbles   (which should be minimized)
the fine small stuff that comes from neg plates is what were interested in

downside to this is water-electrolyte consumption is a hell of a lot

upside is 2x3x4x increase in hho

[jikwan]

resolution didnt last long

take a look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tH13Vfv-Lc

[Dr.Greenthumb]

  what if you applied pressure? The boiling point would rise and let you send through more powa if your materials can handle it