Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time

[turbo]

Hi Marco,

That's pretty interesting about backlight inverters in laptops, I'll look some up if I can find cheap.

Something else came to mind, I am not sure if you have seen that video with Eric Dollard called Transverse and Longitudinal Electric Waves?
To make the story short, in it Eric says that using the analog networks they have devised (basically combinations of chokes and capacitors) they were able to achieve high voltages and behaviour similar to Tesla coil's but without the big coils and spark gaps. They have used a generic signal generator passed through an audio amplifier to boos the signal up into those analog networks.

Do you have any knowledge of that, how it would be done in our present times (using more available solid state components)?

Thanks.

Hi

Yes i know what you are talking about.
Dave (CTG-Labs) has also replicated that specific setup.
Eric Dollard was good at replicating Tesla's findings.
There are several things most people seem to miss when whe look at things like the Avramenko's plug.
One for example is, when it is used to charge up a capacitor, the effective adding to the charge in the cap decreases when the voltage the cap is charged to rises.
The reason for this is simple, The charge in the cap "pushes" against the charge comming from the plug.
If the cap is empty it will store much of the energy comming from the plug, but when the cap is charged to let's say 100 volts, the cap pushes 100 volts against the plug...
So let's say the plug sends 200 volts to the cap, the effective voltage will be only 200 minus the 100 that already is in the cap = 100 in stead of 200.
This means the cap charges rather fast at first but when it becomes charged, only the voltage from the plug that is above the voltage of the cap will add to the charge.
So in effect, the voltage the plug has to overcome the charge of the cap to add to the charge, the 100 volts, is lost in the process.
If we could start with an totally empty capacitor all the time, we would see diffrent things.
Therefore it is important that we get rid of the charge that is in the cap, fighting agains the energy comming from the plug.
That is one of the things some people miss and i do not want to make it too difficult to understand.
Another thing is that Diodes are leaky, they never cut off the flow totally.
You could look at them as if their resistance changes but not between a zero ohm and infinty.
Vacuum diodes, however do block the flow in one direction.
There is a great diffrence between them.
you can have something that is totally closed or you can have something that is almost closed.
In the case of the almost closed situation there can be a back flow of energy due to charge diffrences, and even in opposide directions.
An intresting thing to look at is the "Avalanche breakdown" where the electrons are ripped off.
It has been claimed that when this happens, the ripped off electrons are replaced by electrons out of the environment, so in effect they attract energy from the local environment.
I could write a book about all of this but there are many,many good books already that deal with these kind of things.

M.

[hartiberlin]

I was able to squeeze 400V out with a fresh battery and get the micro spark-gap to work, sort of.

I followed Stefan's advice and sharpened the ends to a needle point and when plugged into the circuit had to push one end of the electrodes to create a momentary contact and then it would spark. Suffice to say it does not smell nice.

Turns out the electrodes in the micro spark-gap have to be *really* close, much closer than I thought. Also, because my wire was wrapped around the electrodes and then electrodes glued to the plexiglass with hot glue gun, it started sparking where my wire was wrapped around on one electrode. As a consequence, it was getting hotter around that area and the glue started to melt. Talk about a chain reaction, hehe.

I can see the potential in the spark gap, but we need voltages in excess of 1000V to be able to use a spark gap of nominal size and not something super miniature.

This also makes me wonder about something else, a multi-filar circuit where one coil is a start-up driver, using conventional pulse electronics to kick start the self oscillations. Post start-up set of driver coils wired via a spark gap to a large high voltage capacitor(s) to continue the process. Last set of coils would be power coils used for whatever output is deemed necessary.

Of course that post start-up driver set of coils would need to produce 1kV and above, and be tuned properly with the right capacitor(s) and the spark gap so that the oscillations continue and do not stop. Definitely out of my reach of experimentation, for the time being anyway.

Hi Amigo,
you see, how much power this sparkgap puts out that the glue already got hot with this milliWatts input !
Just try to wind a few more turns of small size diameter wire onto your core and
thus you will get higher voltages.
Also try to see the difference of graphite versus copper in the sparkgap.
or graphite versus solder lead.

Regards, Stefan.

[gyulasun]

2N2222A transistor, 60~65mA drainage. I somehow cannot get the circuit to >30mA like others do.

Hi Sanmankl,

I have included a trimmer potmeter in Zon schematics so that you could try to reduce the 60-65mA current consumption you have. The 470nF capacitor in parallel to this trimmer potmeter is to prevent the reducing effect of the potmeter in AC drive to the transistor base, so that only the DC base current can change when you turn the potmeter.
The 1000uF electrolytic capacitor I drew in parallel with the battery is not obligatory of course, it may help lower the AC inner impedance of the battery.

Gyula

[amigo]

Hi

Yes i know what you are talking about.
Dave (CTG-Labs) has also replicated that specific setup.
Eric Dollard was good at replicating Tesla's findings.
There are several things most people seem to miss when whe look at things like the Avramenko's plug.
One for example is, when it is used to charge up a capacitor, the effective adding to the charge in the cap decreases when the voltage the cap is charged to rises.
The reason for this is simple, The charge in the cap "pushes" against the charge comming from the plug.
If the cap is empty it will store much of the energy comming from the plug, but when the cap is charged to let's say 100 volts, the cap pushes 100 volts against the plug...
So let's say the plug sends 200 volts to the cap, the effective voltage will be only 200 minus the 100 that already is in the cap = 100 in stead of 200.
This means the cap charges rather fast at first but when it becomes charged, only the voltage from the plug that is above the voltage of the cap will add to the charge.
So in effect, the voltage the plug has to overcome the charge of the cap to add to the charge, the 100 volts, is lost in the process.
If we could start with an totally empty capacitor all the time, we would see diffrent things.
Therefore it is important that we get rid of the charge that is in the cap, fighting agains the energy comming from the plug.
That is one of the things some people miss and i do not want to make it too difficult to understand.
Another thing is that Diodes are leaky, they never cut off the flow totally.
You could look at them as if their resistance changes but not between a zero ohm and infinty.
Vacuum diodes, however do block the flow in one direction.
There is a great diffrence between them.
you can have something that is totally closed or you can have something that is almost closed.
In the case of the almost closed situation there can be a back flow of energy due to charge diffrences, and even in opposide directions.
An intresting thing to look at is the "Avalanche breakdown" where the electrons are ripped off.
It has been claimed that when this happens, the ripped off electrons are replaced by electrons out of the environment, so in effect they attract energy from the local environment.
I could write a book about all of this but there are many,many good books already that deal with these kind of things.

M.

Hi Marco,

See I did not know that about AV plug and the capacitor pushing against the charge, thus we need to discharge the capacitor often as well, something similar to what Bedini did in his chargers with capacitor and 555 timer triggering an opto-coupled transistor and SCR?

I see you mention avalanche and I've seen elsewhere mention of avalanche diodes, would using those help instead of normal ones since they appear could conduct high voltage away to wherever we want it to go?

Do you know if there's anything written up on the Web about those analog networks and how to replicate them and the effects they create? I'm looking for an alternative source of effects that Tesla coils create, without the use of the Tesla coils and those networks seemed like a good start...this is for a totally different application though, not free energy, but alternative medicine.

Soooo, how do we coerce you to write up a book on your experiences and findings?

Thanks again.

[Feynman]

Yeah Marco, write a book and school us in the analog skills!  I will buy a copy!