Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time

[DrStiffler]

I am constantly "concerned" about the use of DVMs in any of our experiments...Somehow I have a feeling that they are either skewing the measurements or interfering with the measured circuits.
On more than one occasion I have noticed irregular readings, which have mostly happened when the battery power of the DVM was (or nearly) running out. Low battery is not an isolated incident and still I think that even with fresh batteries there could possibly be interference from the DVM to the circuit being tested.

What are your thoughts on the implications of use of analog panel meters as a replacement for DVM in these tests?

@amigo
Being an old duffer, I started with the old linear meters, the loaders as I called them. Then the great invention of the vacuum tube voltmeter 10M or more input impedance and still drove a linear meter movement. Then we got the FET, now we could have a good portable running on battery and still have HiZ input. Then the greatest of the worst the DMM or DVM or whatever you call the things with digital readout and great accuracy.

I still hold in my mind the old VTVM was about the best of both worlds, you could put it in a metal box and decouple it from RF, the meter was slow so you did not see anomalous spikes etc.

Unless you spend $500 to over $5000 for a DVM/DMM I would agree that you are rolling dice when you make any claim based on the readings. What needs to be developed is a standardized protocol that will remove this problem.

[amigo]

@RStiffler

Dang it doc, why does everything have to revolve around expensive equipment?
I guess I'll have to pick up couple of analog meters on eBay, just to have around as an alternative.

I am all for establishing a protocol for measurements, iirc I did write about a need for one in some of the other threads (perhaps it was even in your SEC thread).
But then again how do we know that our test tools are telling us the truth? Even if we all get the same piece of equipment they could all be giving us false data because of the nature of our experiments and what we deal with (non-standard science).

[DrStiffler]

@RStiffler

Dang it doc, why does everything have to revolve around expensive equipment?
I guess I'll have to pick up couple of analog meters on eBay, just to have around as an alternative.

I am all for establishing a protocol for measurements, iirc I did write about a need for one in some of the other threads (perhaps it was even in your SEC thread).
But then again how do we know that our test tools are telling us the truth? Even if we all get the same piece of equipment they could all be giving us false data because of the nature of our experiments and what we deal with (non-standard science).

**Dang it doc, why does everything have to revolve around expensive equipment?
Hey! I don't set the prices on good gear. Once the US farmed everything out to (other countries) we have ("shit") for gear. I once would have given body parts for HP gear, it was one of the standards along with Tek, then you know what happened. You got problems, hey I am funding all my work out of savings and with interest rate so damn low and the market so volatile all I see is (-, negatives) so stop complaining and accept the fact that we are in a new world, one filled with crapy gear unless you pay top dollar. **END of my rant**

Well I have some good ideas on how a protocol can be set up and used by all (independent of crappy gear) and will cover that in my thread. But I like this thread because of some work I did in the late 90's with "Poly-phase" coils. I don't want to cover it here, but I do think that it is still available on the SS site.

Another thing for (All) those "Rattle Snake Magnets" are wild things.

No offense meant, but bite the bullet on the gear issue or revolt with me and go back to the old ways.

[amigo]

@RStiffler

I was just kidding about equipment being so expensive. I know that economic situation is not that great and most of us are stuck "between a rock and a hard place". Should've put a smiley at the end of the sentence...

I am willing to go back to the old ways because the more I read old papers and writings of pre-WWII era the more I realize they had more sense and intuition (dare I say "a clue") about certain things than we do today.

Maybe we could design and build our own test equipment geared towards alternative science?
I just don't know what we are even looking for or how we'd quantify it into a measurement when many of those are subtle energies being constantly interfered by the EM radiations in the environment.

[zon]

Finaly, I get help from my friend to build special transformer/coil for combining "my circuit".
I have measurement for 4 days, yeah it's prove  my circuit not drain anymore.
Unfortunatly, i can't share the special coil setup because made by him (not my design), i only share the picture.
I'm only to say, it's posible to show free energy with electronic circuit and magnet.!

Now, the end of my adventure of "Led Lit for Long Long Time" 
I still on this forum.
See you on another energy experiment

zon

Note:
For "my circuit", i use same diameter coil, but different length only.
u can use different diameter coil that i use , but follow the length of coil (effect on the number of turn).
T01 i wound coil one by one,  not bifilar because not same length.