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Single AA battery to light WHITE LED for long-long time

Started by zon, March 05, 2008, 05:18:40 AM

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zerotensor

Quote from: zerotensor on March 05, 2008, 11:50:21 PM
I built a simple voltage-regulated driver circuit to run a pair of high-intensity leds off a single 9v battery for an art installation last November.  While taking down the show, I decided to leave the circuit running to see how long the leds would continue to glow.  Well, it's March now, and the leds are still lit.  Not super-bright, but still quite visible, even in broad daylight.  They have been putting out a flux of photons 24/7 for 4 months, and they don't seem to be getting any dimmer.

6 months now and still going, a wee bit dimmer it seems, but still cooking.  No coils, no magnets, no exotic materials.  Just a semiconductor voltage regulator, a diode, and a couple of resistors and caps.  LEDs are efficient, and human eyes are sensitive.

gyulasun

Hi Zon,

Very good,  thank you for the picture and the drawing!  Now that you have finished, Please do not dismantle your circuit but let it work continuosly as long as it is able to work, ok?  If the battery is getting overcharged, you may connect any further load (like a 20 Ohm resistor) in parallel with the battery to discharge it to 1.15-1.19V and let it run again for days, ok?

Would you answer some questions if you can:

1) Do you have to adjust the distance between the toroid core and the magnet(s)?  If yes, is it sensitive to the distance, is there a critical, narrow "sweet" distance?

2) In Reply #251 above 'allcanadian' referred to possible repel magnet poles facing the core, is that correct? Does the circuit work if attract poles are facing the core?

3) Would you measure the DC current from the battery? I mean for instance unsolder the two red wires at the bottom of your photo and insert your multimeter set to DCmA position.

4) I assume the 6 white LEDs are in parallel?

5) If you remove the two 1N4148 diodes going to the battery/100uF capacitor, will the brightness of the 6 LEDs change stronger or dimmer or remains the same?

If you think any one of the questions are violating your given word to your FE friend, then do not answer it.

Thanks,  Gyula


Quote from: zon on May 04, 2008, 11:22:37 PM
Finaly, I get help from my friend to build special transformer/coil for combining "my circuit".
I have measurement for 4 days, yeah it's prove  my circuit not drain anymore.
Unfortunatly, i can't share the special coil setup because made by him (not my design), i only share the picture.
I'm only to say, it's posible to show free energy with electronic circuit and magnet.!

Now, the end of my adventure of "Led Lit for Long Long Time"  :)
I still on this forum.
See you on another energy experiment

zon

Note:
For "my circuit", i use same diameter coil, but different length only.
u can use different diameter coil that i use , but follow the length of coil (effect on the number of turn).
T01 i wound coil one by one,  not bifilar because not same length.



zon

@all
Revision number 15, correction for length of 3rd coil are 270 cm not 200 cm

@gyulasun

Configuration for magnet   NS --- Coil --- NS.
I haven't try  the distance of magnet corelation.

3. DC Current at + battery , for 2 LED 11 ma , for 6 LED 22 ma
4. Correct, pararel to get more drain (current)
5. Yes, if I remove the two 1N4148 diodes going to the battery/100uF capacitor, the led will the brightness/stonger. But i can't do it for long time because it' will burn the led if the led not tight on place (unsteady)

Voltage at output without load/LED and without  the two 1N4148 diodes going to the battery/100uF capacitor will 80 volt DC
Voltage at output without T02 (special coil/Motionless DC Generator/MDG) are 40 volt DC.
Voltage at output with LED and without  the two 1N4148 diodes going to the battery/100uF capacitor will 1.3xx volt DC and increase voltage in certain time

Charging will stop at certain voltage (i don't know why) maybe at balancing state.

zon

gyulasun

Quote from: zon on May 06, 2008, 07:04:13 AM
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Voltage at output with LED and without  the two 1N4148 diodes going to the battery/100uF capacitor will 1.3xx volt DC and increase voltage in certain time

Charging will stop at certain voltage (i don't know why) maybe at balancing state.

zon

Hi Zon,

Thank you very much for your answers! 
I do not really understand where the output voltage is 1.3xx V DC?  Across the white LEDs when the two 1N4148 diodes are removed from the input?
If yes, then your meter shows wrong value because a white LED forward voltage drop usually around  3.1V when lit. It is possible your digital meter is fooled by both the pulse and the DC voltages coming from T02 in this case. Because without the two 1N4148 diodes in place the load at the output is less than when the diodes are in place, so the output pulse from T02 is also higher.

Thanks again,  Gyula

allcanadian

@Zon
QuoteConfiguration for magnet   NS --- Coil --- NS.
I haven't try  the distance of magnet corelation.
3. DC Current at + battery , for 2 LED 11 ma , for 6 LED 22 ma
4. Correct, pararel to get more drain (current)
5. Yes, if I remove the two 1N4148 diodes going to the battery/100uF capacitor, the led will the brightness/stonger. But i can't do it for long time because it' will burn the led if the led not tight on place (unsteady)

This is starting to make more sense now, the magnets being NS---Coil---NS will induce a polarity in the core of NS---(Coil NS)---NS, this would produce a point of neutrality(Bloch wall) in the middle of the core and between the core and the magnets.
Looking at your circuit it seems obvious what is happening, the small primary winding of the external toroid TO1 is feeding the secondaries of TO2 an inductive discharge, when the transistor turns off there is no path other than an inductive discharge into TO2. The diodes, high self-inductance windings and LED in TO2 form a HV tank circuit which stores energy in moving the bloch wall in the core. On discharge of TO2 the magnetic moment back to neutrality coupled with the high self inductance coils charges the small primary of TO1, it also charges the battery through the diodes on either side of the LED, with the 100nF cap dampening the high voltage inductive discharge to some degree. I think the most relevant point is that this circuit will always raise its potential through every step made by the current, at 80 or 90v in the working circuit we could say a majority of the working current is returned to the source battery. As well the magnets provide the necessary bias against the inductive discharge to efficiently store this energy but over time there may be issues with the magnets as the frequency of oscillation in the core of TO2 is probably pretty high.
I included a picture of what may be happening----red is conventional current, blue is the inductive discharge current, the green box is the external toroid TO1 which I believe may be the oscillator section. There is a lot happening in this little circuit ;)
I give it two thumbs up ;D   Good job
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