Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths

[ramset]

Shrug I agree WHOEVER did this was VERY evil and trying to kill hundreds of thousands not  thousands and trying to kill our economy pretty much screwing the whole planet P.S. ONE I also ran demo crews in NYC for almost ten yrs' safely taking down fire damaged buildings and was called in bye the head engineer of the port authority in the previous attack Chet

[ramset]

@all I wont be posting in this thread anymore It hits to close to home  I'm not putting my head in the sand Its just that the rest of the forum is so inspirational and at this time in my life I REALLY LIKE THAT!!! I  just had to add  my 2 cents Chet

[one]

In my opinion high  rise  buildings  don't  normally  fall that way .

You don't know anything about how the World Trade Center is supposed to fall.  In a more general sense, I am sure you have not seen lots of high rise building fall due to massive damage inflicted, so you have no idea how any highrise is supposed to fall when hit by a large plane.  So you are just making stuff up.

Shuggedatlas

My first post in this thread started with this

I  don't  believe all the  conspiracy  storys

What  does stick  in my mind is  the way the  World  trade  buildings fell .

They  all fell  straight  down  exactly  like   controlled  demolition .

That is what I do know.

It is  what I will continue to believe  as long as I live.

I don't  believe alot of  the conspiracy  theorys .

I have no clue about  why anyone  would do such things .

I have no clue about why   our goverment  would lie to us about such things

All I know is that it happens.


I do  have a pretty  good  understanding   of how  buildings fall ........and  no one here  has  came up  with  any  examples of buildings that have fallen  neatly into their  basements   ( exactly  like controlled demolition )   without   actually  using  controlled demolition .    an uncontrolled fire  simply  does not cause damage symmetrically enough  to bring a building straight  down.

The  trade center  towers all fell  exactly  like controlled  demolition . 
That is  what  sticks  in my head ......  I don't want to  accept  the  conspiracy  theory's .........but  something is not  right


As far as just making things up ...........  If you want a  good idea of who really  enjoys  just making things up , please  review the part of your post I did not quote. 

This  willl be my only reply  to you on this  subject
From your other posts in general   it is my  opinion that you   come here mostly just to argue. 
I am not here  to entertain  you.   


gary

[shruggedatlas]

The discussion I posted was made up, but the point was the idiocy of such a plot.  Why do something so massively complex and easy to expose, when something simpler would suffice.  Forget the physical evidence.  If what is there right now is not enough to convince you, nothing ever will.  But try to come up with plot that involves what happened and see how that can possibly get off the drawing board.  I challenge you to come up with one.  Pretend you are trying to convince a jury that something like this was hatched in the back rooms.  Remember, it has to cover:

1.  The real or fictional people on the planes - why go through all that trouble to use planes.
2.  Why a missile and not a plane in the Pentagon, given planes are already being used?
3.  Why take down building 7, that has no people and causes no additional outrage?
4.  Why have planes hit the towers at all, when a simple demolition will do?
5.  Why take down a plane in the middle of nowhere in PA?
6.  Why harm the many Bush campaign donors who had offices in WTC?
7.  Why not plant evidence that Saddam was involved, if the goal was to invade Iraq?

I am sure I am leaving out some things, but you get the idea.  Just try to come up with a plausible plan that needs to involve ALL of the above.  And "they're evil and crazy" does not cut it.  Anyone who pulled this off without a single lowly plot peon coming forth, in exchange for immunity and millions of dollars in book rights, and saying "I was involved and here is what I know," was not crazy.  This was executed flawlessly.  No one squealed.  So how can such masterminds greenlight a crazy scheme like this?

Oh, and lastly, if it was so easy to pull this massive scheme off, why not plant the damn WMDs in Iraq?  How much egg on face has the administration had to wipe off because there were no WMDs in Iraq?  Compared to executing 9/11, planting WMDs is cake!

[Feynman]

Try to expand the scope of what you are imagining.


See

National Security Presidential Directive 51  (NSPD 51)
and
Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20  (HSPD 20)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=K3dAnSMzUlo

....signed May 2007, which allow the president to declare martial law and seize control of national, state, local, tribal, and corporate government in the event of a loosely defined "catastrophic emergency".  Could that include a mortgage crisis?   Bank failures?  A run on the dollar?