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Complete information on working SM style device.

Started by spherics, March 17, 2008, 12:03:53 AM

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sparks

     @Marco

         I beleive it is the alignment of the mass radiated electromagnetic field  energy of the copper that yields any seeming overunity effects.  The copper atoms randomized broadcast is altered by the impulse energy traveling through the copper mass.  The ambient dielectric and magnetic vectors soon return this copper mass broadcast to a confused state.  Therefore it is necessary to create a receiver that stores the radiant energy in a resonant form of some type or control the amount of external field energy exposure.     In Spherics design I see none of this.
Just 4 pulsed bifilar solenoid coils pointing at each other.  The copper re stored in an air armature.  This would be a torsion field that goes 360.  Perhaps each 1/2 revolution of which can be recaptured as the field unwinds?
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turbo

Quote from: sparks on September 19, 2008, 06:00:13 PM
     @Marco

         I beleive it is the alignment of the mass radiated electromagnetic field  energy of the copper that yields any seeming overunity effects.  The copper atoms randomized broadcast is altered by the impulse energy traveling through the copper mass.  The ambient dielectric and magnetic vectors soon return this copper mass broadcast to a confused state. 


Okay so this i can follow.
In simple terms it would say pulse copper mass with fast high voltage spikes to generate the RE shockwave and add in a delay element to intensify this effect.

Quote from: sparks on September 19, 2008, 06:00:13 PM

Therefore it is necessary to create a receiver that stores the radiant energy in a resonant form of some type or control the amount of external field energy exposure.     In Spherics design I see none of this.
Just 4 pulsed bifilar solenoid coils pointing at each other.  The copper re stored in an air armature.  This would be a torsion field that goes 360.  Perhaps each 1/2 revolution of which can be recaptured as the field unwinds?


This i cannot follow exactly..
What do you mean by storing RE in a resonant form?
In simple terms, the RE just charges up the wires it hits.
Yes in Spherics design this happens in free space and this is important relating to Stevens heating problem.
In Stevens design the field was going through all the metal which resulted in huge eddy currents heating up the unit to levels of self destruction.
Anything you put into the RE zone will interact with it and so this is where you want your output coil only.

So i'm not sure what you mean by storing the RE.
This is simply done in a capacitor between the output coil and a reference terminal.

Marco.



sparks

         @Marco

   
     I believe that the tpu pulls re from the copper collector winding.  The external circuit then reacts by filling this void.  Your explanation of the heating problem makes sense.  The energy flows into through and out of the tpu with  the currents creating  induction heating at the external field to control winding interface.  Now if these eddy currents were put to work somehow like spinning a ring armature the system would be more efficient.  I believe Tesla in creating his coil capacitor uses the current to create a dynamic capacitor whose charging is a byproduct of the current.   In the tpu this would require alot of engineering and additional coils.   Hmmmmm

     Below I have included a current transformer used for metering feeders to commerical buildings.  Tpu seems to just be the reverse of this action.
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Quote from: sparks on September 20, 2008, 10:37:14 AM
I believe Tesla in creating his coil capacitor uses the current to create a dynamic capacitor whose charging is a byproduct of the current.   In the tpu this would require alot of engineering and additional coils.   Hmmmmm

Yes. This so true. I keep invisioning the dynamics of the tpu and the NT512340. Reverse engineering the later is almost nil because it is in plain sight. One just has to map the forces and vectors. These same elements could be manipulated in other configurations but any misalignments would show up as diminishing returns or extra undesirables like heat or runaway, the worst.

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wattsup

@sparks

Here is something I have been mulling over as an idea for quit some time that may touch upon what you are saying.

Basically you have three coils.

First a coil (blue) is wound from top to bottom with one insulated magnet wire as two spheres. Since the coil is wound continuous, the top sphere would be north and the bottom south, or vise versa.

Over the blue sphere your wind a primary (red) coil of not too many winds. Again since the primary is one wire going over both spheres, the top would be north and the bottom south, again or vise versa.

Over this you put a wrap about 1/2" thickness of a non magnetic material (green) that is hard enough to wind a  last coil over.

Then you wind the final coil (orange) over the material in the same manner as the blue coil and again you will have a north polarity on top and south on the bottom or vise versa.

If both blue and orange coils are slightly energized, they should produce an outer and inner north polarity on the top and the same south polarity on the bottom. Then when you give a capacitor discharge to the primary this should shoot out RE into the space between both coil sections.

Now here is the question.

If the RE can be ejected from the primary with north polarity particles in the top portion and south polarity particles in the bottom section, then what will happen. These particles will be stuck between two coils of the same polarity as the RE and hopefully, because the coils will cause a repelling action on the same polarity particles, the RE will spin around and around on its own endlessly as long as the blue and orange fields are maintained.

As this spin occurs, this will create movement over the coils and should produce an electrical output from the blue and orange coils. Like two living poles of a battery. So you will have a self energized loop with output.

Maybe the spin will not be endless but if the coiling can perpetuate this action for a few seconds longer then the primary discharge, then a well timed capacitor discharge action on the primary will create more spin inside the coils hence energy output then the actual energy consumed.

Does this make sense?