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Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !

Started by zapnic, March 17, 2008, 04:28:58 AM

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bolt

We are NOT dealing with normal electron flow its been well documented by all the past OU inventors that there are many forms of electricity and they simply do not follow the normal rules of generation supply and transmission. The TPU produces rather "static" electricity then normal electron flow thus the laws that every one tries to imply can or cant work simply do  not relate.

The basis of OU is non reciprocal so that the energy produced is not reabsorbed. This applies to the various motor/generators that have been invented over the years that the action of the magnets and coils produce energy which is dumped into caps so that the produced energy does not become reciprocal in taken back that energy. In other words the very fundamental basis is a ONE WAY valve.

Likewise when someone says that moving a magnet along a piece of wire doesn't do anything Who says so?  We know conventionally at least the effect does effect iron as moving the magnet along it will cause the iron to become magnetized. It must therefore do something in copper wire. It may not have an effect on a normal electron unless we cut perpendicular but we never wanted to produce a normal electron we produced a static electric charge instead. High voltage "static" streams have very different characteristic to a similar voltage conventional electron flow and the difference is clear when they are shot across a spark gap or shorted.

These can be pushed along the copper wire and forced to accelerate till they fly out with such force and become polaried with refence to the negative side which has become depleted of the static charge. Thats why the TPU produces DC nor AC. A potential difference will only exist when an inbalance has been created. By creating a depletion creates more energy into trying to correct that depletion then creating the depletion to start with. This is 100% opposite to normal electron flow. Normal electron flow requires WORK but the energy produced to correct the PD is small and reciprocal.

However please don't think the TPU contains iron wire. SM made reference to bailing wire meaning junk laying around not iron wire but then later as he knew this would create confusion made very specific reference to the coils being copper wire. He further states that speaker or lamp wire works best.

aleks

Quote from: bolt on March 22, 2008, 10:51:35 AM
We are NOT dealing with normal electron flow its been well documented by all the past OU inventors that there are many forms of electricity and they simply do not follow the normal rules of generation supply and transmission.
The flow may not be normal, but it should be related to electrons if we are dealing with solid state conductors. Ionic flow is only possible in fluids and gases to my knowledge as ions cannot travel freely inside solid wire. I think that these OU devices turn matter's electrons into free electrons thus disintegrating matter and probably releasing various other particles in the process. The instant kinetic and RF energy freed together with these particles is fed into the collector wire and hence we have a power source. The only question I personally have is what disintegrates first: is it air atoms that disintegrate, or wire's atoms? For sure, ones that are less stable.

sparks

  @alecks

      You've been working hard thankyou!  I believe the bailing wire becomes a receiver of ambient magnetic field fluctuations.  It is tuned to any wave length not by the potential energy or amplitude of the wave or frequency but  by the magnetic information of the wave.  So the rest of the system knows when where and how the "signal" is coming.  IRON HAS INTELLIGENCE!!!  It senses reacts and remembers. The rest of the system by scanning the iron core flux density changes now knows what is necessary to dance with the energy wave.

    (We disintegrate matter everytime we take an electron out of an atoms spin resonance.  E=MC2v1-v2)
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aleks

Quote from: sparks on March 22, 2008, 11:19:30 AM
      You've been working hard thankyou!  I believe the bailing wire becomes a receiver of ambient magnetic field fluctuations.  It is tuned to any wave length not by the potential energy or amplitude of the wave or frequency but  by the magnetic information of the wave.  So the rest of the system knows when where and how the "signal" is coming.  IRON HAS INTELLIGENCE!!!  It senses reacts and remembers. The rest of the system by scanning the iron core flux density changes now knows what is necessary to dance with the energy wave.
Thanks, hope my mental exercises are helpful for at least a small fraction.

Of course, iron has "intelligence" which is of magnetic domain nature, and domain orientation may cause deviations in electron flow. It's like drawing/imprinting tracks on a sand and letting water flow through them. The water will flow along these tracks - leaving surrounding sand untouched. And then we can "reset" the tracks and create a new "picture". Helix magnetic field should do the same on the insulated core ferromagnetic wire: it will "imprint" tracks on it that will work as waveguides for electron flow. I think :)

epwpixieq-1

Quote from: EMdevices on March 21, 2008, 09:47:37 AM
thanks for that info Jason, it sounds interesting.

My take on this is quite simple.    It works in conductors as well.  It's a type of eddy current phenomenon perhaps.

Here's an illustration.  Note that due to the relative velocity between a magnetic vector and charge carriers,  they are imparted a force and a current occurs normal to the disk.   This is calculated as (j = k(v x B)), where 'v' is the velocity of the charge relative to the magnetic field 'B', and 'k' a constant(conductivity).  This current density is labeled as 'j', and integrated over a surface would give the curent 'i' in amps.    Now this current further interacts with the magneitc field, and if you do a (j x B) calculation, it results in a vector labled 'F' , or  force on the charge carriers that is imparted by the rotating magnetic vector.  So it's a type of drag, and there has to be slip or it doesn't work  (slip is relative velocity between the charge carriers draged along and the rotating B vector)  In a conductor, this results in actual drag on the disk (you can physicaly spin the disk)   the same as in an AC motor.

An intersting thing to note is that the ultimate direction for the drag is the same for (+) or (-) charges.   The actual charge that moves depends on the type of material and what the charge carriers it has.  I'm sure there are finer details to the actual motion of the charges, but this should give a good idea what's involved. 

EM
EM, according your analysis, and based on my understanding of it, F=jxB=k(VxB)xB and this comes differently on the conventional electrodynamic book knowledge that gives F=q((V/c)xB), if from this we put q/c=k as scalars we have F=k(VxB) and as (VxB) is not equal to (VxB)xB it put me in to the thinking mode ... will it be possible to try to clarity what could cause the difference ... Or maybe I am making mistake in my interpretation.

thanks,

SAS