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iron cores; how important is iron vs other magnetic ore

Started by mcorrade, March 18, 2008, 05:38:32 PM

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Quote from: mcorrade on March 18, 2008, 05:38:32 PM
I can't seem to find iron anywhere for my coil cores. How important is iron vs steel or some other magnetic ore?

I've used welding rod for many of my cores. Easy to obtain (any welding supply store) and very inexpensive. You can coat each rod with lacquer paint before you cut it into the required length so they are insulated from one another.
If you want to make a high rpm motor, keep the core size small so the hysteresis is low.
If you want a lot of torque at slower speeds, make the cores larger.

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis

good luck !


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Winding resistance

Current flowing through the windings causes resistive heating of the conductors. At higher frequencies, skin effect and proximity effect create additional winding resistance and losses.

Hysteresis losses

Each time the magnetic field is reversed, a small amount of energy is lost due to hysteresis within the core. For a given core material, the loss is proportional to the frequency, and is a function of the peak flux density to which it is subjected.

Eddy currents

Ferromagnetic materials are also good conductors, and a solid core made from such a material also constitutes a single short-circuited turn throughout its entire length. Eddy currents therefore circulate within the core in a plane normal to the flux, and are responsible for resistive heating of the core material. The eddy current loss is a complex function of the square of supply frequency and inverse square of the material thickness.

Magnetostriction

Magnetic flux in a ferromagnetic material, such as the core, causes it to physically expand and contract slightly with each cycle of the magnetic field, an effect known as magnetostriction. This produces the buzzing sound commonly associated with transformers, and in turn causes losses due to frictional heating in susceptible cores.

Mechanical losses

In addition to magnetostriction, the alternating magnetic field causes fluctuating electromagnetic forces between the primary and secondary windings. These incite vibrations within nearby metalwork, adding to the buzzing noise, and consuming a small amount of power.

Stray losses

Leakage inductance is by itself lossless, since energy supplied to its magnetic fields is returned to the supply with the next half-cycle. However, any leakage flux that intercepts nearby conductive materials such as the transformer's support structure will give rise to eddy currents and be converted to heat.