OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'

[AbbaRue]

These results bring me to my same old saying.

     "Don't try to build a self running unit, instead try building 2 or 3 identical units
      and use the output from one to run the other."

This will solve the technical issues of running one unit off another,
as well as proving the results are reproducible.

This is a very cheap and easy to build device.
Try building 5 of them and use the output from one to run the other.
At the output of the 5th one you should have so much more output then input
that all doubt of over unity will be gone.
My calculations show that the 5th unit should be putting out over 750% of the input.
That's 7.5 times the input, now if you get that, there will be no more doubt of over unity.
And with that much output it would be very easy to feed it back into the 1st unit to run it,
and have a self running system. plus power to spare for other uses.
One can measure a device to death and post miles of graphs, but herein lies the real proof.

If this works then it's just a matter of connecting multiple units to get as much output as one wants.

[nul-points]

hi AbbaRue

thanks for your suggestion

the input to the test circuit is 8V DC

as you can see from the latest test-run results i posted, the output from the test circuit is a mix of bipolar pulses with peak voltages decreasing from around 3V down to about 1.5V

just feeding the output into the input of itself or any other similar circuit obviously won't work

the output waveform has to be converted back to a unipolar state and its voltage level increased to 8V or more

the results of these tests show that when you store a charge on a capacitor, 1 Joule for example, then you also do 1 Joule of work outside of the capacitor to get the internal charge stored

ie. charging a capacitor always results in only 50% of the supplied energy getting stored in the capacitor

the disappointing conclusion is that feeding the output through a transformer to increase the voltage, rectifying through a FWBR to make it unipolar again, and then storing the result in a reservoir capacitor is at best only going to give us half of our 150% energy output


so, until we learn the way to convert the output form back to the input form, with less than 33% loss, i'm going to continue with a variety of load tests which aim to give tangible proof of whether this circuit arrangement can do up to 50% more work from its output than the equivalent energy in DC form - eg. more heat; more mechanical load moved; etc


all the best
sandy
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

[alan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cUS03yNl40
Maybe this is a bit way off from your experiments, but it supposedly also show a charge anomaly. Pretty impressive, even though no real (quantitative) measurements have been done.

[AbbaRue]

@alan
That video is very interesting, and I can see a way it might be useful here.
We need to design a switching circuit that does the same thing as shorting the terminals together does.
Then we could use the output from this to charge the first capacitor of the Tesla circuit.
That may give use the edge we need to get usable power.
Is anyone able to draw up a quick schematic that will replace the wire shorting concept with solid state?

[alan]

What Tesla circuit do you mean? Or is the circuit in the video a Tesla circuit?

I think a relay switch can work well to get the shorting effect.
Instead of using a battery as 'the dipole', I'd simulate the battery by recharging (high C, low V) caps, so it is known exactly how much energy is put in the circuit, using standard formula's (1/2CV^2), exactly the same way as Sandy did.
If OU is confirmed, we'd consider putting it in cascade to amplify the energy.
It's time for real results, seen too much special effects and almost no numbers, except for here and drstiffler