The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[gn0stik]

All good talk, I have been watching this for a while now. The main problem that I have with it is that it depends on a virtual stator in the form of a rotating magnetic field. The problem with this is, there's no real replacement for an actual rotating magnet, or coil arrangement. The magnetic field in a Tesla motor design does not actually rotate so much as the poles move around the device as the coils are pulsed. In other words, the magnetic field does not rotate any more than individual frames played rapidly in sequence actually make bugs bunny eat carrots.. Therefore there is no cutting of any output coil placed in this field, all you will get is the significantly lower output of the fields expanding and contracting as they are pulsed sequentially. It may be obvious, but I do not believe that the TPU works on induction at all.

Having said all of this, with the right variables, you can still get very interesting results with this setup. I love the use of a crossover. It's elegant and simple, and plays to Steven's character, and pool of knowledge.

Regards

[pauldude000]

The main problem that I have with it is that it depends on a virtual stator in the form of a rotating magnetic field. The problem with this is, there's no real replacement for an actual rotating magnet, or coil arrangement. The magnetic field in a Tesla motor design does not actually rotate so much as the poles move around the device as the coils are pulsed. In other words, the magnetic field does not rotate any more than individual frames played rapidly in sequence actually make bugs bunny eat carrots.. Therefore there is no cutting of any output coil placed in this field, all you will get is the significantly lower output of the fields expanding and contracting as they are pulsed sequentially. It may be obvious, but I do not believe that the TPU works on induction at all.

Magnetic Induction by definition is an induced EMF (electricity) in a closed circuit due to change of a magnetic flux in the circuit.

Since these units HAVE to be either pulsed with electricity in some manner, or started with a moving magnet, they by definition are run by magnetic induction. To have induction, a magnetic field does not have to "cut" a wire". Skin effect, faraday's disk example, and various other principles show that ANY interaction between a changing or motional magnetic field and a conductor produces EMF.

Faraday's disk example demonstrates that the field is continually "cutting through" an infinitely thick conductor, as far as the stationary magnetic field is concerned.

Now, in a theoretically "perfect" rotating field, you would see a moving "tube" shaped magnetic field, sliding around the circumference of the TPU. Now, we are told that this is impossible, as the field cannot exist without the applied electric field, which is true. They indeed do exist hand in hand.  However, both photons and radio transmissions demonstrate that this Mag field/EMF field CAN separate from the inductor that produced it, and travel away from said conductor seemingly existing by itself.

The question is, will the resistance of such a field to passing through a conductor, allow for a conductor to guide its path of travel? (The principle of the path of least resistance.)

If so, then a self existant rotating field can be made.

Now, consider a virtual rotating field effect. I state virtual, as all that matters is what the collector "Sees". Your "frame by frame" analogy wouldn't matter in this case, as the collector neither "knows about" nor "cares" whether the field is an independent field rotating or three or four fields simulating the same thing. Three or four properly phased coils pulsed in proper sequence do just this.

The first signal fires field No1. Second coil fires just BEFORE field No1 starts starts to collapses, joining the two aligned fields, just like two permanent bar magnets held with N of mag1 facing S of mag2. This prevents or at least minimizes "field orientation flipping" upon collapse of field No1. (it would at worst be a very weak field at the point of field reversal due to the strength of the following field at full power.) Field No2 then is at full peak, as the third coil fires, and so on around the coil.

You then have a perfectly simulated rotational field of the same type, but using stationary fields. The "collectors" would see nothing but a rotating field either way. It does not matter really which is truly happening.

The collectors in a tpu are not much different in consideration as the disk in Faraday's example.

At least, this is the current state of my understanding. It may change as my work progresses.

If you have a theory for your understanding of the operation of the device, I would love to hear it. All input is good stuff to me, and I am proposing but ONE possibly valid explanation of the device.

Paul Andrulis

[BEP]

In my opinion gn0stik is correct. Rotation from pulsed sectional coils will not give us the rotation we need. It would be fine for a physical rotor. This statement is true when only considering rotation within the torus.

My suggestion was intended to show how you could produce a DC potential on the horizontal coils. Time the ringing so the new pulse and the ringing aid each other. This means tuning more by pulse width than PRF. The rise and fall should aid the rise and fall of the ringing.
As far as cutting the conductor, Paul, your description fits exactly what I find. In addition to that imagine what would happen if every single turn had an opposing counterpart(zip cord/lamp cord?)
Now, the rotation that this experiment should provide (not pulsed stator sections as in a motor) is the same used in RF technology now. Two crossed dipoles fed by different sources (or a matching network to shift the magnetic to one and the electric to the other) will provide a helically polarized signal. Not in the center of the array but in the far-field.
If you could get that far-field rotation up-close - say the distance between the top collector and the middle - and do the same from below. Wouldn't that arrangement apply a true rotational field to the middle collector?

As far as useful rotation goes that probably comes after obtaining a DC potential on the horizontal winding. I have not tried the reverse - injecting signal into the 'collector' instead of the 'control'.

I've had a little luck with the DC production part. Until I can get some more bench time my suggestions need to stop.

[wattsup]

@pauldude000

Good write up. Thanks.

Here's something I had shown a good while back. I think it depicts what you have discussed.
Virtual Alternator Rotor (VAR)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2944.msg43055.html#msg43055

[PLUTOSBONE]

nice work everyone
I have found an article about energy sucking Radio antennas written in 99.
Talks about transmitting in order to recieve and how the near field of an antenna acts as circuitary rather than RF. In the nearfield it is possible to change the voltage without changing the current and vice versa. It also states that the cancellation of the energy is actually an absorbtion of the energy. at low frequencies using a rotating magnet or capacitor plates will allow power  to be recieved rather than just signals. EM change character in the near field of a coil or a capacitor. A small resonator can produce an extensive and intensive AC field of its own and act as a EM funnel. What is needed is a high Q resonant tunned antenna. Or an am tuned resonant loop antenna.
It goes on to other stuff but i thought that the ideas could apply to the TPU.
Anyway If you want to look at it google energy sucking radio antennas or try
http://amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html
I found most of the first bit and bits of the last bit the most usefull.
A quick question. Has anybody played around with somehow letting the frequency find its own resonance. And would it make sense that to couple to the M field of the earth you would need to get a voltage capable of producing the transmitting speed of the RF. Say speed of sound.
say the first frequency floats and is only used to couple to the Earths ever changing M field and then the second comes along just faster than the speed of the EM field and compresses the wave from the air into a kick in the steel which then takes off at the speed of sound in steel. Now we have a velocity change with enertia capable of running back against the M field of the earth to produce a larger em field and recieve a larger amount the next lap.