Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[jeanna]

It occurs to me from my past research that you could add coils or mesh-type structures to the JT output wires in order to radiate more power to the NS generator.
--Lee

Hi Lee,

I drew the pic with radiations coming out from the toroid and also the secondary of the joule thief, however, I am not sure where they are coming from. It seems most likely that they are coming from the toroid itself.

I realized this after I had posted the pic but since I don't really know where they are coming from I left it.
Did you see the radiant joule thief 3 video?

In it, I am lighting a fluoro tube and at the same time the NS generator is picking up 321mv from radiance. I do not know that it can't get it from the tube when that is lit, but I think it just might be the toroid.

I know there is a lot coming out of the center of the toroid. I have not been able to nail it down, but in certain angles relating to the center of the toroid, the scope will give much bigger numbers, or a reluctant neon will glow up.

I wonder what kind of mesh and how you are thinking of hooking it up?
This is very interesting.

Thank you,

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

Jeanna:

Without really knowing, my guess is this might be some form of inductive coupling or somehow matching of frequencies.

Bill

[jeanna]

Yes, that too.
I just waited 45 minutes but the latest video failed to upload- unknown error. Then I clicked on my videos and got a message that they are doing site maintenance. So, it will have to wait for tomorrow. It is 11 here and what on earth are you doing up so late? I know...

I will return in the morning.

jeanna

[the_big_m_in_ok]

jeanna said:

I drew the pic with radiations coming out from the toroid and also the secondary of the joule thief, however, I am not sure where they are coming from. It seems most likely that they are coming from the toroid itself.

Good thinking.  I tend to agree.  There was, by my memory, a posted drawing---graphics software---of the magnet fields around an electrified toroid.  The point was: three fields were acting on each other to amplify power by the mutual action of the fields.  You might be right about the toroid for that reason.

I realized this after I had posted the pic but since I don't really know where they are coming from I left it.
Did you see the radiant joule thief 3 video?

I would have to look for it.  I've thought of something else?  One 'newbe' on Overunity indicated in a post that capacitors pick up a charge from ambient energy in their surroundings; that's why they often have a bleed-off resistor to discharge them all the time.  Have you heard of this?

In it, I am lighting a fluoro tube and at the same time the NS generator is picking up 321mv from radiance. I do not know that it can't get it from the tube when that is lit, but I think it just might be the toroid.

The NS generator is poorly understood by me.  He was about as smart as Tesla, but using different technology.

I know there is a lot coming out of the center of the toroid. I have not been able to nail it down, but in certain angles relating to the center of the toroid, the scope will give much bigger numbers, or a reluctant neon will glow up.

Well, that's new to me.  An inductor angled into, or toward, the center of the toroid?

I wonder what kind of mesh and how you are thinking of hooking it up?
This is very interesting.

As long as it's metallic, chicken wire mesh should work---it's lightweight, too.  But I think copper wire, whether insulated or not, can be better.  Copper is usually better for such applications than other metals.
LATER RE_EDIT:
jeanna,
Take a look at this:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=ktAZAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

and this:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=RHgkAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false


--Lee

[jeanna]

It occurs to me from my past research that you could add coils or mesh-type structures to the JT output wires in order to radiate more power to the NS generator.
I suppose there's a point of diminishing returns somewhere, though?

--Lee

OK.
I guess, I understand what you are getting at. thanks for that explanation.

I was thinking of enhancing the other end of it, though.
I was thinking I'd make a kind of antenna which I would add to the NS coil.

So, this is a different take on the situation.
I like it.

How would you suggest I make a chicken wire transmitter for the joule thief? Just stick it on there and fiddle with it?

(This is such an interesting direction to go!)

thank you,

jeanna

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LATER RE_EDIT:
jeanna,
Take a look at this:

hmm. That looks dangerous to me. I mean dangerous in that it might attract the wrong crowd to my front door.
I might try some chicken wire, but nothing like a millimeter!

thanks,

jeanna