Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[jeanna]

I just checked my buried coil for the first time in several weeks.  Bad news.  0.0 vdc, 0.0 vac, and 0.0 mA's.

Bill,

Does that mean the coil is very dry? 0.00 is lower than a little moist.

Do you think it got polarized? In the brochure NS says it doesn't get polarized like other galvanic batteries when in non acidulated. or some language that means to me that adding vinegar could stop it from working.

So, do you think the vinegar covered the wires with crud?

lots of questions here.

Thanks for the information. Sometimes (often)  it is more information when something does NOT work, as you know.

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

@ Gary and Jeanna:

No, I did not dig it up yet but I am going to.  Yes, I am concerned that the vinegar "accelerent" I used
may have had some ill effects on the metals.  The soil is fairly dry now but we had a heavy rain 2 days ago.
There is only one way to know so I will dig it up when I get the chance.

Yes, NS said these should not polarize and the galvanic effects will not hurt them. (In non acidized soil) I guess the vinegar
made it acidized.  At least I didn't use pitchblende, ha ha.

Bill

[Pardon]

I just checked my buried coil for the first time in several weeks.  Bad news.  0.0 vdc, 0.0 vac, and 0.0 mA's.
Crap!!!

just by chance did you make sure your meter Leeds are still plugged in and working correctly. i know i have a bad probe on one of my meters and it causes me fits. causes the same as above.

I came across this link    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuA-dkKvrd0

it's a video of how to make a 3D viewer of magnetic fields. I am going to make one today. also i am starting my coil winding today.

[Pirate88179]

@ Pardon:

Yes, I did check my meter and leads, but, always a good suggestion.  Great video!  So simple and yet it works great.  This would cost less than $2.00 I think and would be handy to have around.  I'll bet Jeanna will make one to see what her coils look like.  Excellent post, thanks.

Bill

[libra_spirit]

I have completely enjoyed reading this thread. Congratulations are in order to see people working together in a spirit of good progress and leaving a well documented trail! Thank you all.

I would inject one thing that may have been overlooked as of yet. The Joe Cell electric response. This is now a familiar pattern to me having played with the cells for some time, but anyone never having played with them would not have ever been taught about this in any schools.

Using only distilled water and concentric stainless steel tubes spaced at .5 inches we can have voltages of 1 volt appear accross the tubes in the Northern hemisphere. Down under the voltages will soar to 3 volts. When shorted and then released the voltage springs back instantly. We do everything possible to prevent the battery or corrosion effects that happen with impure water.
Over time the water becomes more pure and impurities actually fall out of the water. The voltage effect is present as long as the tubes are wet, you can dump the water out completely and until the tubes go dry the voltages are still present, and will spring back instantly after a direct short.

This is only a geometry effect and once the water to tube voltage action is started it will feed itself indefinitly.

Now in my torsion field studies I discovered that at .5 inches the effect is good but even at closer distances it still works. The width of two thicknesses of black tape is a smaller fractal and will also work. Distances are criticle to field strength and can be optimized.

To prevent battery corrosion effects simply use distilled water, and the metals should hold up much better.
One of the effects that is not aparent is how the water molecules spin up when placed into this geometry and at the boundary of the metal and the water, a voltage is somehow generated.

The cells need to have an initial charge placed on them to start the process, and it can be applied either way, there after it will sustain with the same polarity, however the cells only have one metal, Stainless steel.

This effect is no small discovery and may have direct applications to your work here as the active ingredient is the water.
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To maintain this voltage, and then have it fill your "bifillar coil capacitors" it would then have more punch to deliver a shot of current on the discharge, and then turn this into a magnetic pulse by joining opposing ends of the iron and copper coils.

The iron wire is the active element that would be spining the water up and along its surface meeting both inwards between layers and outwards where water touches the iron we would expect a voltage to appear naturally from the Joe Cell electric effect. This is actually a torsion field effect with a voltage side effect that falls on nodal positions based on distance between layers.

We have been able to increase this effect by using special lengths, or what we call tempic field resonant lengths. In the Joe cells the tubes can be cut to exact lengths and we see the voltages become more stable. These voltages do however interact with the earth and the time of day following the tides and so probably the gravity of the sun earth and moon as they cycle 4 times a day.

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In a coil like in this cell you inititally use the galvanic response to start the cell, but after it is operating I understood the cells might often even go dry and still operate. Do not recall where I read that on Stubblefield cells, but believe it may be accurate.
Due to the geometry, if the electrodes do not go bad before the pulsing can be started, then the cells can continue to operate dry.
What I never understood about these cells is how they produce DC as a battery if they are really pulsed DC. The secondary should be outputting AC and would need a rectifier to make a DC would it not?

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I certainly do not have all the answers, but if any want to try using some of the resonant lengths, I have been exploring torsion fields and lengths of wire that seem to harness them to a high degree. The Joe Cell model is the only one I have found to produce consistent voltages.

The parameters to harness a torsion field are coil length and coil diameter. The diameter determines how the nodes will align from layer to layer. Voltages would appear from inside to outside of the coils, so with the two wires being different naterials you can see how this will cause the two metals could be further pushed apart from inside to outside, but especially from the core element to the coils, as you have been seeing happen.

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Last observation, if you take and place the core iron in series with the relay, or place it on one end of the iron wire in series, the voltage will be gained to add current to the impusle. You stated that voltages to the core were often higher. Also if this current running vertical in the core is the correct direction it will amplify the voltage surge as current starts to flow. This is from TPU study where it was shown that coils at 90 degrees will produce high voltage spikes in one another.

If you get the current backwards running vertically through the core the current will drop. It may be worth a shot to connect an electrode to both ends of the core and try this.

Also if the higher voltage experienced on the core is from torsion fields, then it should spring back almost instantly after the relay opens.

Now if you want to do this with an opened circuit, or CE approach, just use a one wire circuit to the core so that the relay opens the core totally again allowing a full fast recharge. You want current to move from iron to copper and then stop as the relay closes and opens.
Iron is negative so which ever end you tap will draw the electrons towards it as it is shorted to the copper. If the recharge is trully comming from radiant energy then it may not need a closed circuit to operate.

Sincerely,

Dave L
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