Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[Pardon]

here is the link to the patent

http://www.rexresearch.com/erthbatry/erthbatry.htm

it's the last one listed. i think you just have to click on the link on that page to see the full patent

[Pirate88179]

@ Pardon:

Thank you for posting this information.  I will download and read through it.  I glanced it over and it has a lot more info than I can digest in only a few  minutes  Excellent find.

Bill

[jeanna]

As I think I have mentioned, I have been thrashing about looking for some of the missing elements that will add to my ideas about how to extract power from this generator.

IMHO We will NEVER get anywhere as long as we are still trying to use this as a battery.

The trouble is, we are still trying to raise the power through galvanic means just to get started.

I think Luc gotoluc has got the idea we need. Please look at his whole (2 page) thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4124.0.html

and watch the very clear videos.

Today he posted his newest video. In this video he includes all the elements we have been using and which are inherent in just the NS generator as it is.

I will let you watch it before I go on. I asked him for a drawing of today's circuit, just to be sure.

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One of the things that have been bothering me lately is that NS used iron and copper. He did not use zinc plated iron. He even said soft iron. This only gives 0.14vdc, which is very low voltage.

I knew we were going down a different road from the beginning on this point, but it didn't matter at first. I needed to get my hands on this coil to begin to understand it. I am happy with how much I have learned so far, but when I couldn't see the spark forming from the spark gap I set up on one of my coils, I just didn't know where to move next.

OK

Have a look and see if you don't see some clues we can use.

jeanna

[jeanna]

So, I think Luc has actually made a NS generator.

I wrote my last post before he posted the circuit. Now that I see the circuit I think he has made this. There is not even a capacitor in his latest design.

He starts with a 12 volt battery, and on one side of it runs it to a magnet with a spark gap made of a simple wire of copper and in line with that is the transformer coil, a big honkin toroid coil transformer (NS is not strictly a toroid - I know that but it is a caduceus and goes in a doubled way sort of like a toroid, I think) Then the transformer secondary lights a light. All from a spark hitting the magnet acting like a make and break switch based on tuned frequency

The core piece is our magnet
one of the copper wires (Cu5) makes the spark to the magnet (core piece)
as it does this the voltage pulses from 0.14v to zero -- fast
     (as does luc's, I assume which then causes the voltage to rise in the secondary?)
all it needs is a little moisture to make the self battery start.

so,

now to tune the wire.

and turn a secondary.

??

maybe??

jeanna

[storre]

You said in his latest design it didn't have a capacitor but the link you give shows a schematic at the top of the page that has a capacitor. Do you have a link for his latest circuit?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4124.0.html

I keep visualizing the ns battery functioning like a long descending pipe of water. Funny because my water supply comes from a 2KM 32mm tube going downhill. Maybe it's why I keep seeing the function of the battery the same. There is a lot of energy coming down this tube of water but there seems to be an extra amount of energy created if you put a value in the middle of this flow and then close it rather quickly. The descending water wants to keep descending but the closed valve makes it impossible so it creates some type of high energy vacuum inside the pipe on that side of the valve. On the other side a lot of pressure will build up but the vacuum side seems to open a door for a lot of energy. You can see here what it does to metal pipes designed to absorb this energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_hammer

I always see water as a physical representation of electrical flow and it's easy to see the water counterpart to things like resisters, capacitors ect. So if this can happen with water maybe the abrupt shut off of electricity can produce the same effect and open the door to absorb the electrical potential around it.