Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[jeanna]

Another interesting thing is judging from the way he wrote about the secondary coil i got the impression it was bare until the last winding was done then he "encased" it in these materials. Hope my ramblings make sense.
                                   LB

Hmmm
Nobody, so far as I know, has had any luck getting a secondary to work. Joe mentioned something in the beginning, but I don't think he ever provided any numbers or replications.

I had some unexplained behavior with a scramble-wound secondary applied directly over the primary, but I have not been able to replicate it. It was made with green 26? gauge wire from RS. around 220 turns over around 120 turns of the copper part of the primary (which is doubled when you account for the iron primary in there. I was never sure how to count it. But it never seemed to matter. It was the only secondary that even REGISTERED anything.

Back to your ramblings, perhaps your suggestion will lead to a solution. It is just odd if it is unvarnished or otherwise uncovered copper, I should think it would act as a single pipe. It does require/inspire another look.

How does one make a cylinder shape from mica? I wonder.

But, they did have varnished wires back then. Linseed oil grows sticky over time, polymerizes,  and eventually makes a dry varnish. I wonder if it has some properties that are essential to the success of this secondary?

mmmmm

Thanks LB,

jeanna

[lbnc392001]

went to lowes last night and got some wire,they didnt have anything smaller than a 6 gauge in bare copper so my girlfriend and i got some 12 guage wire we will have to strip,also got some 9 guage galvanized wire, hope it works the same, we havent figured out where to buy regular iron wire yet.Also got a piece of iron rebar and an iron stake from the masonry section for cheap. Cant seem to find a welding supply sore around here so i think as far as pole experiments we are going to try to order an graphite rod, I read on a site that even though carbon and graphite have the same potential, graphite has a lower resistance. If anyone knows where to get a soft iron core at or if galvanized iron wold work let me know. When i get a coil built ill take pictures and readings to yall.
    Thanks,
             LB
@ Jeanna,
              Thanks for the warm intro, another thing i noticed that i havent heard any talk about was the wooden spool held together by cotton in between the primary and secondary coils, do you know if anyone has done this?

[resonanceman]

went to lowes last night and got some wire,they didnt have anything smaller than a 6 gauge in bare copper so my girlfriend and i got some 12 guage wire we will have to strip,also got some 9 guage galvanized wire, hope it works the same, we havent figured out where to buy regular iron wire yet.Also got a piece of iron rebar and an iron stake from the masonry section for cheap. Cant seem to find a welding supply sore around here so i think as far as pole experiments we are going to try to order an graphite rod, I read on a site that even though carbon and graphite have the same potential, graphite has a lower resistance. If anyone knows where to get a soft iron core at or if galvanized iron wold work let me know. When i get a coil built ill take pictures and readings to yall.
    Thanks,
             LB
@ Jeanna,
              Thanks for the warm intro, another thing i noticed that i havent heard any talk about was the wooden spool held together by cotton in between the primary and secondary coils, do you know if anyone has done this?

lbnc

As far as I know no one   has  tried the wooden  spool   between the   primary and secondary .
I have some theorys  on it .     
I don't want to try to  explain  .... all I have is theorys  I have found that most of the time when   I bring up  theorys  that I can't prove most of what happens is  the thread  gits filled  with  posts from skeptics  . 

My  idea  required starting  with the  magnetic  field  of the primary  driving a  contact  like in a relay ..

In my opinion  no one  here has yet  built  a big enough  coil  to be able to make the switch . 

If my theorys are right  the  wood  spool  is necessary .     If I am right  it  would  be a radiant  energy device .  ...... 


gary

[storre]

The skeptics win if they stop you from voicing your thoughts. We that matter, are not concerned with skeptics so please enlighten us with your thoughts

[jeanna]

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... guage galvanized wire, hope it works the same

Except that galvanized wire has a much bigger galvanic potential with copper than plain iron wire.  Most folks did not make much distinction assuming this higher potential difference would be better than what the patent calls for.

I am still not sure. Since we haven't gotten it to go past simple galvanic reaction yet. who knows? (most of mine use galvanized wire)

we havent figured out where to buy regular iron wire yet

In the section with the rebar, you can get a spool of browm wire made to tie the rebar. It is probably the fence wire we need. It hurts the hands, but all of it does that.

welding supply

I think it is called MacMaster welding online. Bill is the guy who bought the nice graphite post. He will know.

     
             

was the wooden spool held together by cotton in between the primary and secondary coils, do you know if anyone has done this?

I think the patent says to do that. cover the inside bolt and then cover the primary with cloth before adding the secondary.

You can see that humungo pair of batteries in the front lawn of the family picture. It looks white which means it is all covered with cloth in the end too, But he says mica at that place in the patent. 

I am sure he changed everything lots of times after the patents were written.

@Gary,
Do you think the reason I never got any reading from my longest secondary is because I wrapped it on a plastic tube and not wooded? It fit very close to the primary. I was always amazed to get nothing at all; I remember  I stopped even taking measurements, it seemed so odd. The guy on youtube from the Murray university also said he got nothing from his secondary.

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about capacitors:
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The relays will wear out very soon at 50mHz or whatever these things resonate at.


I really think the capacitor at the top is a switch. (not like the cap Bill used, though) I mean at the ends NS calls the 10's.

Look at my avatar, I am talikng about a capacitor between the 2 that are sticking up.

My only NS coil in the ground is still going. I can measure the voltage across the cap itself. It only changes as the cell dries out.

I will buy a new meter so I can make a couple of useful reports.

The point is, I had this plan last year, but used the wrong kind of capacitor.

I am now using the polyester film non electrolytic type. Radio shak# 272-1059 maybe. it is that number just above the bar code. I used both .1uF and .01uF with the same results.

The theory is the joules go to the top of the wire and cross into the cap then go back down and back up  the other wire and into the cap then back again. It makes it oscillate. So, that makes it AC. And it does it all by itself as long as it is wet. I tried a spark gap last year, but it was too tiny to control. I have always thought the silver globes that are on the tops of his units in the photos were functioning as capacitors. He makes it clear not to touch them, but leaves it a mystery why not. And he also says it does it all just by being wet...

The problem we have is that the starting force of this invention is the galvanic reaction between the 2 wires. But if it is done right, and I think this capacitor thing is what he did, this flips into electrolysis and re-plates the wires cycle by cycle. This way it never uses up the wire. I have been working on this part, because there seems no point in trying to get a higher galvanic reaction. There are easier and better ways to do that. But, when the primary starts functioning the secondary should give some power. That is next. 

BTW, in AC, nothing is going anywhere as it is in DC.. It just rocks back and forth.


jeanna