Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[timmy1729]

@ Timmy:

Please keep us posted on your results.  Take photos and or video if you can.  Once you get some juice out of the ground, we can take a look at applying the joule thief to boost the output to help us light up some LEDs.

I am working on a circuit now from a Fuji camera that others have been able to light a good sized fluorescent tube from an AA battery.  I think it would be great to light one of these tubes from an earth battery.  Let me know if you need help hooking up you leads to the carbon rod.  I posted pictures way back with an easy way to do this.  I can post them again if it will help you.  Best of luck to you.

Bill

Yes, could you repost how to do that? That would be very helpful! I took apart an old power supply from an old computer of mine and got a small torroid and a large one too. They are covered with some kind of paint or something. Will they work? Also, are they supposed to be magnetic? These aren't.

[Pirate88179]

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.0;topicseen

Timmy:

Above is the link to my Joule thief topic.  Everything you would ever want to know about them is there.

If you were asking about how to attach your leads to the carbon rod, let me know and I will post a picture.

Bill

[jeanna]

Hi All,

I had an idea just now. this is sparked by the joule thief thread and the camera circuit. so, I guess this is a proper segue??

As you know, I have been thinking about how the wires of the NS generator are supposed to be hooked up. We have never gone beyond the primary and we will need to hook up the secondary after this.

Well, this flash camera as xee2 pointed out to me is using a joule thief-like circuit and is a combined inverter and transformer to high voltage, high frequency. [and the results are astonishing.]

Unlike the little torroid joule thief the flash ckt has 2 primary levels and one secondary level coil. This is very familiar...

So, maybe the secondary is an integral part of the very basic workings of the NS generator and the generator is nothing without the secondary as part of it.

BUT the wires need to be put together in the same way that the flash circuit is. Then the seemingly puny 0.5vdc-1.2vdc will be both inverted and transformed to high frequency high voltage.

I need to wrap my head around this flash circuit and probably make a few so I can do that, then I will move forward on this.

Many people in that joule thief thread are way ahead on this and maybe they can shed some more light (and warmth!) on this.

I guess the main question would be; how to hook up a torroidal joule thief or the NS Generator to be a flash ckt. The NS generator has the same length wires and so it is equivalent to the bifilar part of the torroid but since they have different resistances, they would act like different lengths, I would think. And this would make the whole ckt VERY much like the camera ckt.

Thank you,

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

@ Jeanna:

What I have been thinking, and you know this is out of my field but, I believe that we can use the joule thief to boost the output of both the electrode style EB and the coils.  What I am going to try first is the electrode approach (carbon rod/magnesium blocks) and use the small toroid JT to see how many leds I can light.  Then, I will employ the Fuji circuit to see if I can light 100 leds or so or a 48" florescent tube.  Only then will I move to the coil experiments.  I will have to wind a new coil anyway.  I am thinking that instead of adding the secondary to the outside of the primary and having to deal with the make/break part of it, we can just use the energy in the primary to power a JT and in the case of the Fuji circuit, this will allow us to do many things.

I am really very excited about this which is why I got involved with these circuits in the first place.  I had no idea what they could do.

For those not familiar with the Joule Thief topic, I will post 2 photos here.  The first one should be 2, 40 watt 48" long florescent tubes powered by the Fuji circuit and a single AA battery.  The second should be of my Christmas tree running 200 leds all powered by the Fuji circuit and 1 AA battery.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uqNSCdJP2Og
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bbD8Y_n6VNM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_0W3_E2p8cM&feature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9jsXFfa9DVY&feature=related

@ All:

Above are some links to some Nathan Stubblefield videos on youtube. (Thanks AbbaRue)  This is good background information if any one is interested.

Bill