Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

[Pirate88179]

@ Andy:

I remember in the 70's that Panasonic came out with a "passive reflex" speaker system just as you described.  It had a 15" driven woofer, and another 15" speaker with no coil that moved with the driven one.  I knew my years in college playing with music might come in handy one day.

Bill

[1tesla01]

Bill, You have to think backwards because, Electrons are positive ("push") this was done by early electrical investigations this is found in the early explantion of electricity to make it "simple to explain"which I personally find it very annoying.All of the electrical books will tell you that.In the book (Electronics The Easy Way)."Which is backwards.but still informative.thats kinda like (colombs,farad,ions,positive and negative ions)(Ide rather to calculate how many electrons and protons p.s dont try this unless you have a super calculator) or keep it simple (volts, amps,watts,resistance,and (gauss or Tesla) I really dont care about orsters L.O.L Andy

[jeanna]

mmmmm
I was away for a while, now to catch up.

The resistance of the little human detector circuit is what makes it work. It is what connected some of the dots for me.

Andy, the coils are pounded into the ground. I would say there is a ground.!!!

It is what looks like the base to me.

In the early tests we were doing with metal probes in the ground, I and others measured the resistance of the ground. It is a very big part of the picture in an earth battery. There is a lot of resistance in the ground. The more distance, the more resistance.

So, the ground in my little circuit becomes the real ground between 2 NS coils.

The coils are connected above the ground by their copper wires. say the 10's.

Now, call that the Vcc of the little circuit.

Notice that the base of one is connected to the collector of the other. This is where the amplification comes from. Once the base to emitter of the 'lower' transistor has its forward voltage requirement, the electrons will zoom over from the emitter to the base of the 'upper' transistor which gives IT the forward voltage it needs, and now  its electrons will zoom across the p/n junction and now the light that didn't have enough amps before has plenty.

What I am thinking is if we put 2 NS coils into the ground about 6 ft apart. both will be at the ground of the circuit. They have to be. One will have a connection from its base to the collector of the other. (there is no matter which one is called what. There is no diode here that I know of.) That means connect the base - stake-  to the opposite copper wire.

As a matter of fact the Vcc is at both sides because each one produces some of the voltage.

I am unable to draw a circuit that will be comparable to the human detector. I don't know if that is needed, but I am looking for some kind of transistor type circuit that uses both batteries and both sets of copper wires.

To leave the 10's alone to preserve the voltaic couple (which is what he says) could be the same as to connect both copper wires of the 10's and call that the Vcc.

I do get an amplification when I connect them in the style of this above circuit. There may be a better transistor circuit that will make use of what we have more than how I have set it up.

The problem with my results is that my coils are not all alike. There is a potential difference between dissimilar coils, so I am reluctant to print too much right now. I will sort it out and report something.

OK for now.

jeanna

PS I KNOW you don't want me to print everything do you?

edit
I will repost that circuit with some labels and the ground shown.

[1tesla01]

Guys,Call me crazy but; I seems to me a very weak ground with very high resistance. Yes there is a ground there but, not much electron flow.As you describe this system your oscillations are fantastic its moving its doing something to get the readings you are getting.Did I understand someone was getting 2-300 volts!!!!!! or was that mv. I definatly can work with that.Even at very low amps,amps are easy to increase.I will have go back through the post to find how that was done because I would like to repeat this and test it for myself .I would like to use a (variac to set the electron flow) and several marx generators. and mabe a shunt resistor accros the capacitor.and attached it to this circuit or use super caps connected togather to make a marx generator.If you didnt know super caps self oscillate even when disconected.Regards Andy

[jeanna]

Did I understand someone was getting 2-300 volts!!!!!! or was that mv. I definatly can work with that.

Even at very low amps,amps are easy to increase.I will have go back through the post to find how that was done because I would like to repeat this and test it for myself

Andy,

I am sure that was a typo. we have been hard pressed to get more than a volt or 2.

Mine are small and I get anywhere from 50mv to 700mv

Bill gets more. but max is usually below 2v.

Now, I want to be sure I didn't confuse you with my drawing.

These NS coils are about 12 inches high and 1 1/2 inches diameter. That is the primary.

Stubblefield says to use the secondary for the output. Hardly anyone else has a secondary. They do make a difference.

OH good. I do hope you make 2 coils.

perhaps you ought to print out the patent?

In case you haven't yet it is 600,457

jeanna