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Stubblefield coils (bifilar) and speculations

Started by Pirate88179, April 09, 2008, 09:43:54 PM

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resonanceman

Quote from: storre on May 13, 2008, 06:22:15 PM


Oh and I think you will only see a voltage in the secondary if you have the pumping action going on in the primary by making and breaking leads 5 and 6 very quickly with the reed switch. BTW, does the patent say how many windings the secondary has in relation to the primary? 1 to 10? 1 to 100?


The  guy  from WIT   said  a couple  thousand wraps 
He  was also one of the people that  suggested large diamater wire .
This  was on a  video  ,,.......don't  remember which  one .

I am pretty sure the patent doesn't say anything  about it  .

gary

jeanna

Quote from: storre on May 13, 2008, 06:22:15 PM
I don't see the core as holding the magnetism but acting more like a flywheel for the electron vortex. It keeps the flow more stable and acts as a type of battery.

Yes
but others have mentioned that if it is not "soft" then it will become magnetized and ruin the effect. It must be soft iron. Hans told us that antennas were made of soft iron. Ian told me that the iron pipe I used is soft iron.

QuoteIf you want to monitor your results using this reed switch design then the only way is to measure the ac voltage of the secondary.


maybe it is just as well my meter broke.
But my meters only show ac volts not mvolts. (any of them)


QuoteI think we have to forget about measuring the voltage in the primary because doing so messes up the primaries purpose as a self energizing electromagnet.

this is pretty much working in the dark. It will be OK if it works really well at first, but how do I know what is going on? like if I even have the reed switch on OK? There is no test for that now.

I just read the eskimo Quinn say don't hold onto the edge of the pool .real self confidence is when you don't even see the land and you are fine.


Quoteit's good to see more musicians in this other related field of energy :-)
I agree. Musicians are always a very creative population. ;) Musicians make holograms in the brain really well. Musicians are good 4 and 5 dimensional thinkers.

QuoteOh and I think you will only see a voltage in the secondary if you have the pumping action going on in the primary by making and breaking leads 5 and 6 very quickly with the reed switch.

Is there a size consideration  to reed switches? I bought 3 very small ones. Does the size effect the quickness of response? What are the implications of size? This is all one question. :D


QuoteBTW, does the patent say how many windings the secondary has in relation to the primary? 1 to 10? 1 to 100?

No, just a secondary made in the ordinary way.

thank you

jeanna

resonanceman

Quote from: jeanna on May 13, 2008, 08:03:27 PM


Is there a size consideration  to reed switches? I bought 3 very small ones. Does the size effect the quickness of response? What are the implications of size? This is all one question. :D


Jeanna 

if it  works  well it is the  right one .

If there is to much current  the  contacts will usuallly  weld themselves closed 


gary

Pirate88179

@ Gary:

I wish we had too much current..... ha ha


Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

storre

Yes I think NS mentions soft iron also but I don't think it needs to be any more special than that. He recommends using an iron bolt.

I suppose the secondary will produce in the hundreds of volts with few milliamps but that all depends on the amount of windings of the primary and secondary.

I think what you could do to check the effectiveness of the primary is to put a very small light in line with the reed switch. If the light stays on then the switch is not opening with the magnetic field so maybe need to be closer or may need to make more winds are use larger wire. When it works the light should flash but I'm not sure if it will be noticeable if it's flashing more than 60hz unless you recorded it with a high speed camera ;-) Go ESKIMO :-)

Yes I love to work in my head. Saves so much re-engineering time :-)

I have a box of reed switches I got as samples and I will start testing them. I'm not sure what NS used but I'm pretty sure it was a crude type of reed switch or relay so anything we have these days should be good enough.

I'm going to listen to the thrapp interview again because he gives some details that are not in the patent.

What type of wire sizes have been tried here? What has been an easy way to insulate one of the wires? I'm thinking of using bandage tape but maybe there is something easier. I heard of something they use in speaker insulation that might work.