Changing the World: Has Meyers OU Been Replicated?

[achilles]

Howdy Achilles,

I agree that having a fuel sources as clean an abundant as water would be a revolutionary, world changing thing.  But have you thought about the consequences?  First we would be burning something that is vital to our survival.  I know this is out there, but what happens when we have a water shortage.  Water prices go through the roof.  There would be water wars, water smuggling, water terrorism.  Much like it is now with oil, except supplanted by water.  Like life on Mongo.  Now some would say that there is an unlimited amount of water on our planet.  Is there?  It kind of seems that someone said that about oil around the turn of the twentieth century.  You will never know that there are limits, until there is a crisis.

I'm all for water technologies.  It would really cleanup our planet, and put the robber baron oil men in their place.  But knowing the human race, we would gluttonize it until its gone.

I know what we'll say too.  There is more than enough water to last beyond my lifetime, so I don't need to conserve.  By the time we run out of water we'll have found a new source of energy.  The next generation is far smarter than we are, they'll figure it out.  Always passing the buck to our Grandchildren, and making them suffer.  How do I know?  I inherited all my Grandfather's problems, oil shortages, pollution, radioactive waste, ozone holes, national debt, countries that hate us...

Then imagine life, or lack there of, without water....

Whoa! Dude!

Thanks for the input, Monkey.

Some simple math should put your mind at ease:

The earth has an estimated 1.4 Billion Km^3 of water.

1 km^3 of water = 6.2 Billion Barrels.


Assume:

1)  90,000,000 barrels a day (oil) consumed current
2)  to err on the conservative --- 1 unit of oil produces 10x more energy than 1 unit of water


Therefore:

900,000,000 barrels of water a day are needed.

That means every ~6 days the entire planet burns only ONE Km^3 of water -- from 1.4 BILLION Km^3 available.

For perspective, after 10 years, humans would burn only 608 Km^3 of water --- roughly 0.000043%

It would take humans 233,333 YEARS to burn only ONE PERCENT of the earths total water.


Within a couple hundred years max, humans will have discovered or perfected other, cheaper forms of FE (cold fusion) etc.

Perhaps you'd agree now, that we really are just talking about a drop in a bucket

[Goat]

@ z.monkey & All

Not sure why but this always comes up in these types of discussion:

HHO technologies waste water? HUHHHH?

Water is split into Hydrogen and Oxygen then recombined in the combustion process.

Thanks,
Paul

[z.monkey]

Howdy,
I was aware that we have an throughly excessive supply of water, and that water is the by product of burning HHO.  I think these water technologies are a great idea.  I would like to build an HHO electrolyzer with a digital control system.  Look at these posts.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4293.0.html
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4458.0.html

Those other questions are something that we need to explore before we start using water for fuel.  Will we have a water crisis? Probably not.  But do you think the oil men ask themselves those questions 150 years ago?  Probably not.  I am concerned about generating a future crisis that my descendants will have to rectify.

I am interested in HHO to keep my car moving, but I am also interested in zero point energy to keep my house powered. Of course if you don't mind the noise you could always power your house with HHO.  Running a generator on HHO would be simpler that supplying it to a car.  The generator runs at one speed, while a car accelerates, that is a difficult problem for HHO production.

The first of those links is a idea for pulse width modulated control of and HHO system using high voltage supplied by a ignition coil.  We can make it better by using a microcontroller to monitor sensor inputs like RPM, exhaust oxygen sensor, and throttle position to regulate the production of the HHO in the electrolyzer.

I am attaching a schematic.

Have Fun...

[Goat]

@ z.monkey

Didn't mean to imply you didn't know about HHO recombination to water and please accept my apologies if it came out that way. 

I just added my 2 cents to try and stop Achilles from going down the wrong train of thought about HHO powered ICE's   And thanks for the links, I liked the one about the PWM and coils, been thinking along those lines as well, so thanks!  I'll definitely keep that one in mind

@ achilles

There's many people thinking that splitting water to HHO and burning it will turn the world into a desert when in fact it's a closed system of returning water to it's previous state of liquid after combustion.  There is even documentation pointing to the water once burned coming out in a purer (less poluted) state than the water you started with!!!  So there's many more gains to using this method if it ever becomes feasible than our current state of using hydrocarbon fuels which is destroying our planet with polution. 

With respect,

Paul

[achilles]

Lets take another angle.

Assuming a few working models exist....

How can inventors remain anonymous and still go public with the information?

Can compensation be anonymously awarded to those inventors concerned about their safety?