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HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban

Started by Jdo300, April 14, 2008, 02:40:29 AM

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agentgates

Quote from: wattsup on June 20, 2008, 12:35:09 PM
I think Jason ended the torrent link.

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Just do the first three files because the last two have nothing on them and should actually be removed. It's easy do to then click on the last one that is a zip and presto, you have the video.

Many thanks, wattsup. I'll do it this way then make another torrent (which is a lot more popular protocol) from the first three, then disclose it as I promised earlier.

Quote from: wattsup on June 20, 2008, 12:35:09 PM
You may still want to read through the pages to see what has already been discovered. The more eyes the better.

I have an own theory and for now I just want to see the device in better quality then think it through whether the hardware is possibly that what I think or not. But of course if my theory is failing I'll read the comments. ;D

Many thanks, again.

Regards
Tony

wattsup

@all

I have been chatting with Erfinder for a little while now discussing many many things notably regarding the SM TPUs (and much more).

Based on the last heads up on the GK thread where Erfinder only asked GK one simple question about 3-6-9 and the whole commotion this started, I think Erfinder will not be posting directly on the forum (but this is entirely his decision anytime) because guys just want answers without thinking on their own.

Anyways, Erfinder has given me permission to at least tell you guys that I have been talking to him. No I am not his spokesman nor would I replace him in any manner at all. I would wish. But if there is anything he wants to say, I guess he may tell me about it. This way we will be less inclined to start asking 20 million questions or asking for 20 millions answers when we can find our answers on our own. Sometimes the right question is worth a million answers. He has a real knack for asking the right questions.

Regarding the center toroid wind, here is a patent that Erfinder has introduced and that I have uploaded to the Download section.

Title: Electrical circuit for inductance conductors, transformers and motors -Patent No 4806834
URL: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get91

When I look at this simple patent, I feel it has direct bearing on the center toroid winding as well as the control coil winds. It may also have a relation to Otto's Yoke TPU and I also think it would be a good addition to anyone working on the coil/magnet valve shown by Jack Hildenbrand.

Curiously the patent is dated Feb 21st 1989. If SM was using this winding in the center toroid, there could have been a question of patent infringement. Add 17 years to this date and you get up to Feb 21st, 2006.  Hmmmmm.

All the best.

wattsup

poynt99

i've always been at a loss as to the novelty of this patent-- i can not see it.

it is quite obvious is it not, that if two coils are connected in parallel vs. in series, the supply current must quadruple, which will roughly double the flux in Gauss?

there is nothing new or novel about this patent really, and it's amazing a patent was even granted.

the very same effect can be achieved by winding the coil in bifilar fashion and simply connecting the two coils in parallel.

still the same amount of wire is used as in the patent, but in this case both wires share the entire coil former vs. only half



what's up with the center toroid obsession wattsup?

i think you're fussing over this thing for nothing, it's a standard common-mode choke, no fancy loop-backs or anything of that nature

just because you can't find the exact part in any catalogs of this day does not mean SM wound this himself, and it's quite obvious he didn't. it's either a off the shelf part from his day, or he had it custom wound at some factory. this thing is potted also which tells me it's not home-grown. remember, he was scavenging parts from all over the place, and relying heavily on Radio Shack. these toroids could be from anywhere

it is also abundantly obvious that this toroid is not needed anyway. some 1:1 transformer might still be needed, but it may not have to be in a toroid form.

BUT! (and this may add a whole new dimension)

is it possible that SM incorporated his entire TPU into a home-wound toroid ferrite core? did he realize one day that he could just increase the size of the common-mode toroid coil (whatever its purpose is) and wind his TPU coils on it as well?

yes i am referring to the 6" and 4" ring devices where there is no obvious separate common-mode component---so i'm saying it may be incorporated within the device itself

only problem with this idea is the ferrite core would add quite a bit of weight and it would no longer be as light as SM described. one other idea would be to do it all air-core.

so, a couple ideas to chew on if they're worth anything at all, but bottom line, stop obsessing over this toroid coil, it's nothing mysterious in itself, but it's purpose still is
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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buzz-ard

@Poynt - Not taking sides, but I have to concur with you here. The patent does present an alternative to standard windings that achieves its increase in efficiency through balanced instabilities in the resulting fields. That last may sound somewhat like the operation of a TPU as described by SM, but it's not. The function of the smaller toroid in the TPUs almost has to be smoothing - I don't see how it could do any amplification. This is not the same thing as a center-tapped coil. Contra-wound coils on a toroid would seem to work against each other.

I've got a handful of small toroid cores lying around, scavenged from power supplies and such. When I saw the exploded photo earlier in this thread that ostensibly pointed out the alternate winding scheme, I decided to try it on my cores, just for jollies. "Bucking coil" was suggested as its function, although I didn't think it through before I accepted that concept. I also made an air core TPU build using the same design (will be posted on my Website this weekend). While I admit that my testing is nowhere near exhaustive, none of these experiments did anything even halfway remarkable.

The patent sets up twin mag fields within one element, with a south pole at either end and effectively one north pole in the center (or vice versa). AC power will alternate the pole orientation. Each full cycle produces one 'all-north' phase and one 'all-south' phase in both rotor and stator, if properly timed. In this way the invention eliminates one pole from the motor equation, and is unique enough to qualify for a patent. But for all that, it's nothing special as related to our shared quest for a functional TPU, IMHO.

For now I'm ignoring the center toroid. Just another two cents from the buzz-ard.
You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

wattsup

@poynt99

I know it would be easy to just consider the toroid as a standard choke. But I can't accept the fact that in the FTPU, with practically nothing to the device, that there would be such a big toroid for output smoothing. Output smoothing for 60 vdc (unknown amps but expect maximum 1 amp) is the least of ones problems and could be done with a choke the size of a penny or a quarter. Why use such a big choke. It just does not fit. And if it does not fit, you must acquit. Oops. Sorry that's another forum. lol

@buzz-ard

I think you are mistaken in the north south ends of the patent. One end is north the other south. In the center tap it is also one end north the other south. You can see this on Figure 3.  Since from the center tap one coil is clockwise and the other is counter-clockwise, you cannot have the same polarity.

The basic idea is producing the same flux but at half the resistance. In the FTPU there is only one transistor. Yes only one. If you wanted to pulse two control coils, one after the other, this would be impossible with only on transistor. But you could pulse into one control coil, that then goes to the center toroid who's flux field could possibly create a delay, then lead to the second control coil. Then with one transistor pulsing, you get two controlled pulses at different times.

To show this, one would require two control coils of any type and one toroid as per the patent. Enter the first control coil, then the toroid, then the second control coil. Place the scope A at the end of control coil 1 and scope probe B at the end of control coil 2. If with one pulse you can see two distinct peaks, this could indicate a delaying toroid.

@Loner

Actually, no we have not forgotten the two other wires.

I think the black wires are from the toroid but the white wires are probably going and coming from the collector. I am doing some more observations on this and "hopefully" I will be able to clarify this soon.