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HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban

Started by Jdo300, April 14, 2008, 02:40:29 AM

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wattsup

@JD

I like the way you think just like me about the psychology of ones actions and the possible reasons. Did you notice after he put the two magnets on the OPTU, he pressed a pushbutton. So maybe the magnet is a ruse after all.

The problem is each time he puts his magnets, the digital meter is not on yet. So he starts it up then puts on his probes. This creates the illusion of the magnets having an active role int he device.

But he made a mistake when he showed the FPTU. lol
Look at the meter when he connects the probes. He knows that meter off by heart and would not putz around so long with the selector buttons. He put the probes on, the voltage started going up around 26 but then he pushed some of the buttons to remove the voltage reading. He then put the magnet then pressed the proper meter button again to show the voltage. We could never see the meter readings in the old video. lol

Also he kept the FPTU in a carry case. Convenience yes, but that unit is totally open and would have given out many more details then he would have wanted.

OK so no magnets required. The units have push buttons or toggle switches.

And always notice he always refers "there are no batteries in this device that can produce the energy required to make the lights go on as they do" or something like that. This is a way of saying, there are  batteries but never enough to do all the work involved. lol

OK magnets are a ruse. Reeds, maybe this is why the units only last 20 minutes. The reeds burn up because of any potential arching across them. Otherwise, we have to figure out another way.

But look at what DAVE DOLESHAL says on the other thread.

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I confess I don?t know what a reed switch is, but I?ve seen plenty of simple magnet activated switches, so such a thing is hardly amazing. I?m not sure it was a ruse, but I am sure it offers no clue as to the inner working of the device. Steven did take pains to obscure how it worked. If he thought he was giving away some secret, he?d have never let this be filmed. Some of his devices worked merely by flipping an ordinary off/on switch. If these is real feature of the device, it?s probably more like the ability to push start an automobile. It works, but it reveals little about how to build a car.
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hartiberlin

Quote from: -[marco]- on April 16, 2008, 02:14:45 PM
Hey Stefan you forgot the coils are bifilar to cancel out the flux.
This is visible in the pictures too... it's two wires.

M.

Marco,
no it does not make any sense !
Why should it cancel out the flux of the control coil  and be bifilar?

I see in your posted picture that it could also be just the 2 wires of the
control coil going to the stand-box, where maybe a big capacitor just sits there
to do a phase shift.

The 4 coils of the OpenTPU are probably connected this way,
that 2 opposing control coils are in series with a big cap in parallel so these 4 coils plus 2 caps form
2 LC tanks which are 90 degrees out of phase (in quadrature).

So if these 2 LC tanks oscillate they generate a rotational magnet field.

Then the white single turn collector coil wire,
which is taped under the red control coils
to be hidden ( can only be seen in some places, otherwise
taped by black tape)
generates the output DC voltage.


If you remember Jack said,
SM just used these stands  from plastic loudspeaker holders,
so the spool frame where he put it all on, is just plastic all the way...
No more mystery here.

Also the 2 magnets are probably just put there to switch on
2 reed relays, that keep the 2 LC tanks disconnected from each other.

The white loose wire in the center of the OpenTPU is just there
to connect the loudspeaker type output connectors at the top to
the other output connectors at the right side.

Remember SM connects the voltmeter to the upper
loudspeaker type output connectors and the 2 bulbs to the side output connectors.

So the white wires in the center hnaging loose there are just there to make a parallel
output connection from loudspeaker type output connectors to side output connector,
nothing more...



It would be easy for e.g. Roberto to do these tests,
as he has all the required hardware.
The only thing he would have to change is use
a shiftregister pulse control setup and pulse his
control coils in a sequential order to have a rotational
magnet field for his control coils and then see the DC voltage with hash on
the output coil.
This would be the first test to see, how the DC voltage is generated.
Then we just have to find out, how we have to connect the 2 LC tanks
to the output coils and to each other to violate Lenz law and keep
the oscillation running.

It is a pretty simple circuit I guess and easy to setup,
once you know how the connections are to be made.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

aleks

Quote from: wattsup on April 16, 2008, 04:39:26 PM"I don?t know what a reed switch is, but I?ve seen plenty of simple magnet activated switches"
Sounds like a disinformation, like reed switch is not a "simple magnet activated switch". Maybe he didn't really knew a word 'reed switch' at all.

wattsup

@Guys

Don't forget that the OTPU has a circuit board and should not be considered the same device as the others, even to the FPTU which is the first generation device. Again my image grabber is on the blink and I am trying to figure out why. It grabs the image, I can edit the image but when I save it and look at it in another program, the image is black.

@Stefan

Yes there are some wire going to the speaker terminal, but there are other white wires going to the Coil #1 and #2.

Cap-Z-ro



I don't have the basics in this field but even before reading todays comments my mind is going in the same direction as wattsup and EM...that can be either good or bad :)

As I alluded to in an earlier post about the magnets adjusting or tuning reed switches.

Similarly, you guys are also speculating on the reeds having a flapping or switching action.

Today the words of Victor Schauberger came back to me... he spoke of the ability of the salmon to effortlessly swim up vertically up stream of quickly falling water.

Its seems to me the salmon may be vibrating their tails in harmony with the falling water, somehow neutralizing the force of the waterfall?could SM?s repositioning of the magnets be him ?tuning? the reed switch until it flutters or vibrates in tune with the frequency of passing signal ?   

Do those two harmonized frequencies combine with ether energy similar to the way in which an orchestra can produce a resonant sound.   produce usable energy

Denny Doherty of the Mamas And The Papas once described a phenomena which occurred when the group were singing in a certain range?apparently their voices combined to make it sound as if they had another person accompanying them?they even had a name for ?him? which escapes me.

No one has addressed the possible effects of twisting the litz wire, prior to making it into a coil...would doing that enhance the properties of the coil in any way ?

Hope the foregoing is of some use, or triggers an idea in someone.

Regards...