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HIGH QUALITY TPU DVD Video Released from Jack Durban

Started by Jdo300, April 14, 2008, 02:40:29 AM

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wattsup

@eldarion

I will look closer to the section you mentioned. The tapes were on the output wires but I will look again.

OTPU

On the OTPU, I can give you one place to start and that is the coils under the two magnets. The "receptors" for the magnets were not so tight to push the magnets in place so they are not holding in their position by any clipping type holder or action. Also at the base of the receptors there is no metal attraction since the magnets were placed very calmly into position and they did not jump towards the receptor base. What does this say. The coils under the magnets never change polarities otherwise the magnets would pop out of their receptors. So the coils under the magnets are not reversing polarity or generating enough magnetism to push the magnets out of their receptors.

By consequence, the action of the 4 collectors or primaries (either bifilar or not, we'll call them collectors for now) are not generating enough magnetism in the coils at a reverse polarity to push the magnet out of the receptors. This cancels many operational theories, so if you manage your theory around this one main point, it should save alot of time (and time is money). lol (Heard that before.)

Or, on the other hand, if the two coils are pulsed in a way to energize the collectors, they are not pulsing in alternating polarities. So either both are pulsing the same way, or one is pusling in the opposite manner and SM had to know exactly what side of the magnet goes to which receptor.

To continue on let me just get some item names set so we know what we are talking about. These are taken from the OPTU pdf I had posting in 2007.

Output Side - Side were the output wires exit the unit. 6 o'clock position
Coil #1 - Coil between plates on the right of the output side. 3 o'clock position
Coil #2 - Coil between plates on the left of the output side. 9 o'clock position
Coil #3 - Coil between plates opposite the output side. 12 o'clock position
Leg #1 - This is the circuit board.
Leg #2 - Below Coil #2
Leg #3 - Below Coil #3
Leg #4 - Below Coil #1
Collector #1 - Wrapped on lower plate between output side and Coil #2
Collector #2 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #2 and Coil #3
Collector #3 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #3 and Coil #1
Collector #4 - Wrapped on lower plate between Coil #1 and output side

OK now here's the fun part. Now look at the photo below of the OTPU taken from underneath. What do you see? Or better still, what do you not see? I know it's hard to see something so flagrantly out in the open but could not be noticed with the old video. Look where SM is holding the tpu with his fingers flat together. He is holding it right at the coil #1 position and the flat finger hold tells me there is no leg #4 under the coil #1. This is major because it just reduced the probabilities. lol

We also know that the leg #2 has a slide on cover designed obviously for easy access to that area of the TPU, otherwise he would have taped it in place like he did to leg#3. This was not possible to consider becasue leg #2 could have been identical to leg #4 in terms of usage, but we could not see the leg #4 well enough. Also we know there is a switch on coil #2. The question remains - what is coil #3 really like.

FTPU and LTPU

This is something very interesting to think about. I had previously proposed that the FTPU was maybe not made by SM but taken from someone else. If this was true, then this presents one major problem to explain and that is the fact that he is using the same toroid in his first unit as he is using two in his last unit the LTPU. If the FTPU came from someone else or from another country, what are the chances that he could have found the exact same toroids, mounted on the same mounting brackets to make the LTPU? Puzzling.

Now if we can determine where the hell this toroid came from, either from an existing piece of scavenged equiqment or from a heathkit parts kit, from a radio transmitter, etc., etc., if some of the guys here can concentrate some time on this one question and clearly identify the source, then we can get a better understanding of the origin of the Toroid initial design and even try to get our hands on this exact toroid. This would help tremendously in this replication effort.

@Spider

Good post. You will have to see where in the physical portions of the TPU such and idea could fit and what is required to drive this idea and if this will also physically fit.

@Feynman

Really nice circuit. 500VDC/8amps. That's enought to fry a few coils. You say it has a USB connection so you can regulate the pulse with your computer. Now that is really nice. That will save lots of time pulsing in many ways withot having to re-do your circuit each time you try new parameters.

BEP

@wattsup,

I would only expect to see three legs. The reason is only two signals are require for rotation. Each polarized 90 degrees from each other.
Since I expect two rotations, each a different frequency and going opposite directions only three signals are required. Since best rotation is obtained with identical signals-signals of differing frequency must be harmonically related to work. I don't mean harmonics in the common radio sense. We are dealing with rotation so the harmonic will be slightly less than a multiple of the base frequency.

The 4th point would be where energy is extracted - the focal point so to speak.

As far as resolving the leg boot issue: At this point I would expect the leg to consist of: from top to bottom - magnet polarized N over S, vertiacl coil winding (common toroidal not solenoid like), magnet polarized N over S.

That coil would not generate a reverse magnetic field. It would join with the field it is already inside. I would think those magnets would be more difficult to remove when the TPU was under heavy load.
The stronger the load the stronger the field and better the containment of the Lenz rotation of the building electron (negative charge) cloud.
As far as why they were covered? Same as I would do.... so people couldn't tell how the thing worked.

sparks

Quote from: BEP on April 26, 2008, 08:32:56 AM
@eldarion

Go easy on the 'non-torus shape' idea. I'm sure MIT didn't stop at the wireless transfer experiment they published. Had they kept chaining the coils into a circle they probably would wind up with a giant TPU. If my ideas are correct it is essential.
I strongly suspect the initial startup of one of these things was tedious but once going he would have trouble stopping it.
Also, every TPU flavor looks like and expansion or mix of previous ideas. I wouldn't be surprised if SM is or was suffering from X-ray exposure problems. That would be expected if you messed with single and then tandem homebrew betatrons.(and we wondered why the NRC showed up?)
On the OTPU those bifilar (and the other set of much finer wire wrapped on the tubular forms) were likely the tunnel coils that directed leakage from one Lenz collector to the other.
Stick a flat aluminum disk in the middle of the OTPU and I'll bet no bearings could last.

I have a working schematic. With these new details it must be reviewed. It doesn't run with gain.

   @bep

   I think you're starting to see why SM's design is a piece of shit.
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OzOnE

This thread is starting to get interesting again! (goes in "phases" I guess :D ) Who ever said these new videos aren't useful? I think they offer many insights, and are at least a good way of trying to confirm whether a particular theory fits what we see in the real devices (assuming they are indeed real, which I personally think they are.) So, @Jack - please realize that the video(s) you've supplied ARE very useful here, and don't let a few negative comments sway you from your good work!

Just wanted to go back to a point about FTPU that I feel is of importance - The main thing I see in the video is that there are windings in the center of the device. I know it was mentioned that the white vertical lines might be wires, but I'm convinced they are something else.... In a section of the video when SM is flipping the FTPU back over, you can see that the white lines on the hub don't stay in the same position relative to the top and bottom parts of the spool itself. In other words, these lines are simply light reflections on the central windings. In VirtualDub, you can step between say frames 35986 and 36004, and see that as the whole FTPU is rotated slightly, the central white line still points towards the camera. The left-hand white line also seems to "disappear" at frame 36004 (when the light isn't at the correct angle to the camera.) There are a number of places in the video where you see a similar thing happen.

I think that the irregularity of the central hub part itself suggests that there is one big coil around the hub with fine windings (ie. the left and right sides of "coil" are not straight like an empty spool hub would be). Also, the colour of the "windings" does not match the colour of the central hub in the photo that slapper posted (which in most respects does look exactly like the spool SM used for the FTPU). The central coil also looks quite a bit wider than the central hub (assuming that the empty central hub is a similar size to the raised / moulded part on the top?)

Is this coil the main collector? This would match somewhat with spherics design where the "fields" from the outer control coils pass "through" the central collector coil. Attached is a zoomed view of the central part of the FTPU - although it's hard to confirm in the video, it does have a winding-like texture and colour to it? If the FTPU really did operate in a similar way to spherics design, is it possible that when one control coil quadrant is active, the opposite control coil on the opposite side of the spool would also activate (creating a diagonal "field" through the central coil?)

I too have been scouring the Web trying to find an inductor similar to the one on the FTPU / LTPU. The fact that the pair of wires from each side of the inductor are different sizes (/materials?) suggest a saturable inductor as opposed to a line filter / choke. They don't even look quite like loudspeaker crossover coils? If anyone has any idea what these inductors really are, please let us know!

OzOnE

P.S. Also attached is a slightly enhanced view of the underside of the OTPU that wattsup posted earlier. (when I say "slightly enhanced", I mean "no idea what I'm doing - I've probably made it worse" ;) )

BEP

@OzOne

I can't say exactly how the spool is constructed but keep in-mind these spools also had a flavor where the outside ends were plastic and the inner drum was made of rolled, thin metal. On  those you could usually see the metal tabs showing as bent over the plastic. I'm sure there were also some that didn't show.
From what I've seen so far I'll have to agree with Wattsup's interpretation with the vertical wires...mainly because it fits how I think that one works. Who knows what next week will bring  ;)