Fallacies in Lee?Tseung Lead Out theory &Veljko Milkovic 2 Stage Mech amplifier

[hansvonlieven]

Guys, I don't really know about much about the lead out theory since its just too lengthy for me to read 

However I know that the 2 stage oscillator works. As of yet no one (as we know of) has made a version of it which closes the loop, that however does not mean that it is impossible.

What I would wish you all could do is not to look specifically at the machine build by Milkovic, but instead to look at the principle which he utilizes in it. "Resonance is a strange effect" as man on youtube said, "it causes overunity". Allthough I don't completely agree with this statement, it will amplify any oscillation being consumed in the resonant oscillator.

In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjZ5wpzhwtU you can see the common Milkovic oscillator being used with both with a pendulum and a spring.


The principle in work here is resonance combined with a 2-stage separation of the input and output.
This will change the relationship between load and the lowering of the energy stored in the oscillator, which will act most efficient when the load is the largest. This is a completely reversed situation compeered to the normal operation of any machine which oscillates. Normally a wheel for example, will retain most of its energy when it has the lowest amount of load connected to it.

This principle of resonance is also what powers the rotoverter, and can lower the amperage draw immensely while it still keeps the same speed at a specific load.
And long before the rotoverter or the milkovic pendulum was invented, the principle of resonance powered amplification has and is still being used in most of our common and uncommon acoustical instruments.

Have you ever wondered why your classical guitar has a large volume of space inside it?
It is because it amplifies specific frequencies of the original driving sound from the strings on the guitar.
Inside the case of the guitar standing waves will form, which will like any other oscillator increase the amplitude of the vibration when a signal at its resonant frequency is produced.

Since the the wooden walls of the case acts just like the hinge which the pendulum is connected to, vibration induced on the wood and then transformed into sound waves will not result in an equal loss of energy stored inside the the guitar. This can be confirmed with an electrical guitar which do not posses any substantial amplification tendency of sound.

By first ringing the string a couple of times to hear how high the volume of the strings are, you can then compeer it to placing the neck of the guitar towards something which has a lot of surface and also a good sound quality, like wood. This can be you door, wall or any other object which you would like.
What I can quarantine you though is that the sound produced with an acoustical amplifier will be much larger than without one. And then you can begin to wonder why this is happening.

Walter Lewin (think that's his name anyway) at MIT did a similar experiment with a tuning fork over a sound box, and to everybody's astonishment the sound volume increased insanely high!
He didn't say much more about it, but told the students that of course it would be drained much faster, but that is actually not the case! As a matter of fact, placing a tuning fork on a sound box will make the bottom of the fork more stable, and will thus make the oscillation slighly more efficient.
Same thing goes for the string on a guitar when you add the case, the sound will be ten times or more larger but the strings will ring for just as long or longer.


Those of you who are genuinely interested in this fact and wants to understand how and why the Milkociv pendulum works, this is it....

You really should study some acoustics, If you did you would not be talking such obvious nonsense.

Hans von Lieven

[Nabo00o]

You really should study some acoustics, If you did you would not be talking such obvious nonsense.

Hans von Lieven

Hans if you had actually tried out more things than you talk about, then maybe you would actually have better insight into the workings of nature. The only reason to why you say that I am talking nonsense is because you haven't tried any of the simple experiments I have told you. If you had then you would have concluded with the opposite.   

You like many MANY others, is what makes a world of free energy very hard to reach.
Even if not with purpose, you are in this and many other topics actually suppressing technologies which could be revolutionary if they worked and were not discouraged and laughed at from the beginning.
You think you know it all, or at least you think the scientific establishment which you lends your trust knows all, well they really don't!

I can tell you what the biggest stumble block for todays science and culture is, it is not the lack of intelligence, it is the ignorance and the lack of humbleness.
I myself am not one of the brightest at all, but from the beginning when I began my research on energy and its possible suppression I had an open mind, and decided to put the truth before my goals, even if I would conclude that free energy is impossible.


And Hans, you continue to do what you have done for a good while now, you criticize people, not by pointing out where they are wrong, but by calling them names, accusing them of being an complete idiot, and generally fronting a very bad example of what the spirit on this forum should be.

So if you have a specific problem about something I or anybody else claim, can't you instead point to the problem?

Lastly, I still hope this is a forum where we want to find the truth and not just go after the popular opinion.

[hansvonlieven]

Before you come to rash judgments about what people have studied and experimented with check out my website http://keelytech.com and you will find out that I have been working with acoustics and resonance for many years.

Hans von Lieven

BTW. I ALWAYS point out where the flaws are and where people are wrong in their assumptions. Look at my posts.

[Bobbotov]

Before you come to rash judgments about what people have studied and experimented with check out my website http://keelytech.com and you will find out that I have been working with acoustics and resonance for many years.

Hans von Lieven

BTW. I ALWAYS point out where the flaws are and where people are wrong in their assumptions. Look at my posts.

And you do a fine job too. Level headed, pragmatic and precise.

[Nabo00o]

Before you come to rash judgments about what people have studied and experimented with check out my website http://keelytech.com and you will find out that I have been working with acoustics and resonance for many years.

Hans von Lieven

BTW. I ALWAYS point out where the flaws are and where people are wrong in their assumptions. Look at my posts.

Sorry about my rash conclusions of you as a person, generalizations is never a good thing....

Btw I went to that site of yours, and damn... I mean, this is just the kind of thing that I'm really interested in, acoustics and its effect. I have never really looked into Keely before, though I've heard of him in several occasions.

I don't want to start any unnecessary flame war here, I'd just wish you could have looked into some simple effects of resonance which I hold exists in all acoustical resonators.

My comparison of the Milkovic pendulum and a resonator is because I see them both working by the same principle, by the use of resonance as a tool to free more useful energy to you than what you put in.

Please, I want this to go as tidy and correct as possible, because I now care a lot about getting this field into research. If not much, couldn't you take of a few minutes of your time just to test my theory?
I'm sure you got something musical lying around, and if not you could probably find an instrument somewhere else to test this on.

My main point: Acoustical resonators does not focus or direct sound waves (to any substantial degree), but they do amplify them, with the use of standing waves and other means.

Thank you for you time 

Edit: Btw, I'm bookmarking you site