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Tesla Patent 512340 REDUX

Started by allcanadian, April 16, 2008, 08:15:46 PM

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Grumpy

Perhaps the impulse is rhythmicly compressing and decompressing the dielectric (aether) - which the sine wave isn't good for representing.

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allcanadian

@Grumpy
Exactly ;D I was hoping someone would get it. I don't think what we consider as a sine wave truely represents what is happening, it is a compression and expansion. Now what would happen if we connected a load across your big "0's" and little "o's" ? at this point we would have a maximum potential difference--- this applies to conductors as well as what we consider empty space-- that is the fields surrounding conductors. This potential difference could be considered capacitance only between nodes, that is the fields max and min potentials.
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Grumpy

The capacity effect is proportionate to the difference of potential between any two points of the coil. 

You reference to nodes sounds like fixed nodes.  With impulses, the nodes might come and go at the same locations. 
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allcanadian

@grumpy
QuoteYou reference to nodes sounds like fixed nodes.  With impulses, the nodes might come and go at the same locations.
I think a good analogy would be dropping a rock in a still pond, if we drop rocks at the right moment the waves will be continuous--a standing wave, they would be percieved to move but simply alternate the crest with the trough--one becomes the other through the other, a rythmic balanced interchange. So we could say the crest and trough are stationary nodes because they do not move they interchange in one space. Now imagine putting a stationary stick in this pond, the waves would appear to move up and down on the stick and they do but this is only one half of the potential of the wave, the full potential would be measured from the bottom of the trough to the peak of the crest not the average level of the pond upwards or downwards. That is the trough to crest difference in one instance in time--imagine a floating see-saw with one float in the trough and one float at the crest versus one float which can only harness one instance of the wave at a time.
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Grumpy

not standing waves - except maybe to store energy

traveling waves - two types - impulses and oscillations.  Oscillation is just impulse that rotates.  Both are half of DC and AC - as DC and AC take two of these and we want to work with only one.
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