3L/min hydrogen not enough?

[CrazyEwok]

50L per minute you have to be joking!!! come on!!! all i hear is how HHO is more powerful than gas but no-one has figured out the amount needed to run a commercially available engine on a car... Lets think this through this logically... The engine is designed to have "X" amount of fuel in and then make sure that it can suck in enough air to combust "Y" percentage of it to create "Z" amounts of power. Now if you want to fill the entire combustion chamber with HHO then yeah you will need a crap load of it... but you only want to run your engine... you only need to put in the amount that would equal the output of "Z" under the compressed conditions and have the rest as the air intake as "gap filler". Now if HHO liter for liter is more powerful than gas my car defiantly doesn't use 50L of petrol per minute... EVER...  I think if we can make 5L or more this should be more than enough, if used properly... Which i think people are getting close to (that figure would only really be nessicary for really hard accelerating...) I think you would be better for the people argueing  to look at implementing proceedures and finding out the best way to remove the petrol and implement the fuel cells into cars and work with the computers rather than against them... this will be the next progressive step... IMO

[nickle989]

Do a google on Bob Boyce ... and Smack Booster ... there are many lessons to be learned and with hho.

Take the volume of empty space in your cyclinder .. this is what you need to fill it up with ... now you do need to use regular air and hho to get to the volume needed ... as you know you only need small gas to air mixture to provide the expansion ... when you expand it with hho you get more of a force and faster that is why you need to retard the timing when using hho. 

Understand and know what is going on in bob's system and you will get ahead fast.  Keep the volts low per cell 1.2 and amps high ... surface area is important.

You must try a small system first ... relize that the larger you go you have almost a cubing affect in power. Try starting out with a whipper snipper engine or something like that and you will see.

[TheOne]

One of the thing you need consider if you want to drive a car with 100% HHO, you need to change the air/fuel ratio and use really good SparkPlug, 14.7 is no good for HHO, you can probably change this amount for around 30, mean 50% less HHO needed.

But to change the fuel ratio you need to hack your car computer, that another story
They are some open source mod for that but you still need to pay around 500$ just to control your car computer.

[rapttor]

Here's some of the guys in our group playing with 15 - 20LPM just cutting cans in half for fun...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-lCqcT3i0I
If using HHO for mileage gains, figure on roughly 1-2LPM per 1000cc's of engine displacement, leaning more towards 2lpm per Liter of engine displacement. To run an engine on HHO alone, requires internal components to be changed, tolerances tightened up, completely adjustable timing, and a plasma spark source to fire it off wouldn't hurt. To accomplish this for a small four cylinder engine you're talking in the neighborhood of at least 2-400lpm to get it to idle. But you'd have to overcome waste spark, valve overlap and things like that first.

-rapttor