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Overunity Machines Forum



Alex's MT Combination

Started by Alexioco, April 17, 2008, 04:57:41 PM

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Alexioco

I dont understand what the wheel is supposed to do in that picture?
could somone explain
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.

rlortie

Alex,

Where do we view your gallery.

Any Member having a web link and wishing to share it has a blue globe or ball located in the far left column under their name and with the E- mail icons.  Simply click on the the blue ball and the web link will open.  Hans has a great one that I have beer reviewing on and off in my spare time.

At BesslerWheel.Com to open a personal web page you click on the WWW  located at the bottom of the post.

Ralph

rlortie

Stefen,

http://a-z-studios.com/gallery/

nice pictures here and a great Flash site.
Well done.


Thanks, but the credit is not mine, A high school graduate already had the web link.  He joined the Navy and gave me the sight. All I know how to do with it is add pictures and images. The rest I could edit and personalize if I knew how but I don'tt.   

Did you ever get something to work contineously ?

I have came close a number of times but, no! I cannot claim a runner, One often when working on a design will develop tunnel vision without realizing it. It is normal to finally realize the you have configured it into a balanced wheel that will spin for a long time simply due to kinetic and inertial forces applied with that moderate starting push. It will spin forever but will not produce a sustaining force, let alone any output.
   
Have a look at the ramp pulley system I just posted here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4683.msg97622.html#msg97622
Did you ever try something like this ?
With another additional  ramp it can be made probably selfoscillating.


I am not into WM2D other than "Wood, Metal & 2 Days"  Therefore I do not feel qualified to make comment on your above screen shot.  I can with confidence say that I have built and researched many ramp designs, ramps being either internal or externally fixed. Some using magnets not unlike Archer Quinn's proposal. IT WILL NOT WORK!

When using ropes and pulleys  with or without ramps one must consider what centripetal forces are going to come into play during rotation. In you above design I feel very apprehensive that it will eat it alive.

The first rule of thumb I use for evaluating a design is to remove all the mechanical gobbely-Goop and look at the positon of the weights. I then vector them within a vertical reference. Then tally both the ascending and descending sides.  Most end up being a hight for width scenario.  Even Bessler took note of this and  claimed anyone believing that it  will work is in for a disappointment. 

You will often see the term "hight for width" posted by either Fletcher or myself as he is also well educated in the school of hard knocks learning to appreciate it as I have "The hard way".   

@Alex,

You made a statement in a previous post stating that your axle moved up and down. Would you care to elaborate on that.  If a wheel is to work this characteristic is a welcome sight if the source of such action is due to "out of Balance"..
I refer you to the  'Borlach' papers regarding his eye witness report on watching Bessler's wheel.
.
Ralph     

Alexioco

Quote from: rlortie on May 18, 2008, 01:20:41 PM
Stefen,

http://a-z-studios.com/gallery/

nice pictures here and a great Flash site.
Well done.


Thanks, but the credit is not mine, A high school graduate already had the web link.  He joined the Navy and gave me the sight. All I know how to do with it is add pictures and images. The rest I could edit and personalize if I knew how but I don'tt.   

Did you ever get something to work contineously ?

I have came close a number of times but, no! I cannot claim a runner, One often when working on a design will develop tunnel vision without realizing it. It is normal to finally realize the you have configured it into a balanced wheel that will spin for a long time simply due to kinetic and inertial forces applied with that moderate starting push. It will spin forever but will not produce a sustaining force, let alone any output.
   
Have a look at the ramp pulley system I just posted here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4683.msg97622.html#msg97622
Did you ever try something like this ?
With another additional  ramp it can be made probably selfoscillating.


I am not into WM2D other than "Wood, Metal & 2 Days"  Therefore I do not feel qualified to make comment on your above screen shot.  I can with confidence say that I have built and researched many ramp designs, ramps being either internal or externally fixed. Some using magnets not unlike Archer Quinn's proposal. IT WILL NOT WORK!

When using ropes and pulleys  with or without ramps one must consider what centripetal forces are going to come into play during rotation. In you above design I feel very apprehensive that it will eat it alive.

The first rule of thumb I use for evaluating a design is to remove all the mechanical gobbely-Goop and look at the positon of the weights. I then vector them within a vertical reference. Then tally both the ascending and descending sides.  Most end up being a hight for width scenario.  Even Bessler took note of this and  claimed anyone believing that it  will work is in for a disappointment. 

You will often see the term "hight for width" posted by either Fletcher or myself as he is also well educated in the school of hard knocks learning to appreciate it as I have "The hard way".   

@Alex,

You made a statement in a previous post stating that your axle moved up and down. Would you care to elaborate on that.  If a wheel is to work this characteristic is a welcome sight if the source of such action is due to "out of Balance"..
I refer you to the  'Borlach' papers regarding his eye witness report on watching Bessler's wheel.
.
Ralph     


When the axel is in my wheel, the axel is just off centre so when I lift the wheel over the axel its falls back around and the heavy part of the wheel rests at the bottom...
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.

Alexioco

I'm not going to say anything but you lot are in for a massive surprise, and its big...
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.