Alex's MT Combination

[Alexioco]

Looks like history has a nice way of repeating itself. Can't we just all get along instead of accusing each other of theft because NOONE CARES. This is why projects should be open source or else this kind of unproductive/unconstructive/childish behaviours arise from pure greediness. Ofcourse I'm not in that position to  give a valuable opinion, but I pray to god that greedyness will never stain my vision.

You are right my friend, greediness is wrong...

Ok P-Motion hold on, lets se if we can sort this out, in a few words, tell me what you have to say about the wheel I posted, just a few words.

I don?t want this to become an argument, I will say this;

I have been little harsh in taking off my drawings and stirring people up, I am sorry for this, and in return, I shall put my wheel back on with a description and a video.

Now P-Motion: You according to Alan are changing your posts, you even said to me to do it too because you have seen others do it, now lets get this sorted, we both need to apologies to everyone on here, once we have, lets just work as a team on this new wheel invention which I couldn?t of got with information here and through Gods grace...


lol it makes me want to laugh as we are all here arguing like mad men about something that is supposed to be impossible 

[Alexioco]

and about your editing posts?

Edit: Go on, you can do it

[AB Hammer]

 Like I said before, I am alway ready to help you, and I think this string is a good place to start.
I am posting one of my non runners of a push pull slide weight system. This is the closest that I have done to what you are building as far as I can tell. But this won't consist of my breakthroughs. My work today consist of the prime mover design. And that is the one thing I will not show on a public forum. So for this help that I am doing for you. You call the shots on this project, I am here to help and build on open forum.

On the wheel you will see slides, these are to keep the movement from locking up. The arms are for condensing and separating the arm are for pulling and pushing the slide weights. One set on each side. The holes in the flat bar are for weights or other possible attachments.

I also thank you Alex for clearing up the other problem, but don't give up on your forum, but this can give a little time to make it easier to use. Thanks

[AB Hammer]

Greetings Alex

Here is another photo of a different angle of my wheel. I do have one thing to say on your design work. If it is open sourced you will not be able to patent it, yet it may already be to late. And if you want to work with Ralph on this, I am sure he would give some warnings about posting open forum as well. I trust him with any of my designs as well, and he is the only other person outside of my family who will know what I am doing.  But all and all it is up to you, and I have made my offer, but I will not show any of my personal projects outside of the one posted here, for I don't want them abused.

[sm0ky2]

@P-M

If those lines in M25 are in fact strings,  the  2 strings that go around the "pulleys" - as you would have it - are to be conected radially, between 2 opposite center-weights. the center weights have the leverage.
as the heavier weight falls (as an [upper] fixed weight reaches 12:00) this pulls the center-weight (at 6:30)
INWARDS to towards the center. 
As this happens the heavier weight, as comes around past 6:00, is pulled DOWNWARDS, back towards 6:00 because the center-weight is pulling UP on it with **3x the force of the weight + GRAVITY helping it out**  it moves not only downwards, but also inwards, as does the center-weight, creating an imbalance that keeps the wheel turning.

it appears that this wheel may indeed function as it is drawn.
This is not the same as Alex's mechanism. - i assume he is using the other levers from the other wheel, with a portion of this wheel to create what he has - im only imagining this by looking at the 2 drawings. It should be interesting when he is done.

I dont think arguing over who's part is whos is really of any importance to the final goal. We want a wheel that turns itself, plain and simple - and if we can accomplish this, i think the majority of the credit should go to the dead guy who left us these drawings.

this senseless squabbling is just slowing us down, from achieving the "impossible".  - a feat in and of itself which should be more fulfilling than who gets credit for making Bessler's wheel work.

** - the force applied (3x) was gathered the triangulation of the movable parts in their shown dimensions, and under the assumption weights are of equal mass. - this may have adverse effects on the momentum of the falling weights, and thus the momentum imparted by them onto the wheel - which would be a possible deadly flaw**