Feynman makes a Bedini Motor

[PMM Dave]

Yes, the voltage is provided by the inductive kick. But this voltage can only appear across the battery terminals because of parasitic inductance in the battery. If it were not for this, the internal resistance of the battery would mostly short it out. But because of the small amount of inductance present in the battery itself, a narrow voltage pulse appears across the battery terminals. This voltage does not affect the plates, it is just dropped across the parasitic inductance.

Parasitic inductance is well understood. A wire is designed to connect from point A to point B, but it is not perfect. It has some resistance, some capacitance to ground, and some inductance. These are called parasitics, and they can somtimes affect a circuit. Obviously, parasitics should be minimized where possible. When modelling a circuit using SPICE, the parasitics have to be included explicitly, otherwise it gives an incorrect answer.

Here is one way to measure it:-
http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/96apr/apr96a11.pdf

[judo_jack63]

Hi all,

OK, can anyone see what is happening here? A "newbie" with extraordinary knowledge and tons of experience at building these devices, is yet again "stirring the pot" to keep everyone from doing useful experimentation???

Well lads, this has been happening for DECADES in order to keep all of YOU off the workbench and in USELESS confrontation!!!!!!

Now PMM Dave, You spout some good technical theory, straight from the college textbooks.. Good thing that ol Dr. Tesla did not follow the advice from his college professor that a BRUSHLESS MOTOR could not be possible..... Otherwise the closed-mind idiots that lead the blind into the road to nowhere would be still complaining when we build stepper motors for our devices and pulse motors (PMM's) hahahhah.. Guess they don't exist either...... They claimed it as fact 150 years ago, so it's still fact, right???  Hahhaha

PMM get off your "Flat Earth", and open your eyes to the fact that "radiant energy" does NOT conform to your Ohms Law in all ways..... And if you think so, then explain why over 100 individuals have documented evidence of COOLING in certain coils when conditions are right, and simultaneously showing a DROP in current when running a load, at higher torque..........Chew on that one..

And the fact of the matter is, I have tested the Bedini devices for over 8 years, and just because some people cannot duplicate certain effects, does not mean that it is impossible!!!!!

The fact is, some people are nice people, but can't read or write.. Does that mean that we cannot as humans put words on paper???  These ignorant attitudes keep us buying oil....

Stop the jabber and put that great brain on the workbench and build something.. When will you people see what "they" are doing? PMM these batteries have been monitored by some of the most sophisticated computerized battery analyzers that are in existence today, and I can say several things here....

1. Just because YOU are not provided with the existing facts does not mean that they do not exist!
2. Just because YOU know how to postulate Ohms Law does not mean that it fits ALL situations!
3. Lastly, WHY does anyone have to show YOU proof of anything?

Bedini's devices are not properly measured by most people. Because 9/10's of the people who experiment in this field have no background of physics, or science beyond the schoolbooks. They just wake up one day and say, "Hey dude, let's save the world" FREE ENERGY......

Then there are the disrupter's. They want to convince everyone that none of this can exist. They still live in their pre-Copernicus mind. On their flat little Earth that is the center of THEIR universe.

Folks, there is more to all of this than we see. SOON, all of us will see the evidence and PROOF of what some of us are claiming.. Hahahah. Hope they enjoyed the "Black Reign" of the past century. I am willing to speculate that the oil companies have pushed their luck a bit too far. The ones with the technologies have been suppressed long enough, and soon enough they will band together and reject the strong-armed tactics.

Here are 2 scenarios to think about.

Either we will all continuing buying oil and paying prices so high that people cant travel to work, then the world is thrown into war deeper, people starving, can't buy food, and we keep sliding into the abyss.

OR, those legitimate researchers will keep ignoring the PMM's of the oil companies, and keep doing research to find answers that exist. Then those new technologies that don't quite conform to Ohms Law will help find a solution to this current situation.

Before I close this extended missive I shall say the following:

PMM, DON'T study about charge separation, voltage lag and lead in inductors and capacitors, or special characteristics of resonant circuits and remember; when you are sitting there like the 3 monkeys of see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil; please keep killing your dipole.. But let the rest of us alone to watch it not be destroyed before our load is powered.....

I make the challenge to you..... PROVE that there are no laws of physics yet undiscovered. And remember, lack of evidence is not proof.......We have no reason to prove anything to you.. And also, just remember people, the more that you publicly reveal about these technologies, the greater targets you make yourselves for those spies that are "fishing" for information.....

Old, old intel trick.... Piss everyone off and make a challenge to "PROVE" your technology....Wonder why they always disappear when they reveal their discoveries?? Coz we publicly wanted recognition for our knowledge or design....

Loose Lips Sink Ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PMM, you need no proof from anyone.... It don't exist, remember???

That's why you are trolling for targets regarding Bedini Technology...Right???

Folks please don't be coerced into revealing your knowledge. You know what is documented.... THAT is all that matters......In the coming years, that veil of secrecy will save many from persecution. WE know the truth... Do YOU???

Until next month,
JJ   

[Groundloop]

@judo_jack63,

Great post. Yes I agree that not "everything" is discovered yet. One thing is for sure, the Bedini method of charging
lead acid batteries is much, much better than the "brute force" current chargers. It takes a little longer to charge
the battery, yes, but less energy is needed to charge since less energy is wasted as heat. Also, there is 100% fact
that high voltage pulse charging will desulfate batteries. So you get two for one, desulftaing and charging at a lowered
energy input.

Groundloop.

[nul-points]

hey Feynman - all the best with the Bedini replication - looking forward to hearing what you discover about its operation


PS ...anyone know if ' PMM Dave' is somehow related to OUman (& now OUmon) of the Thane Heins thread?
Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

[Evil Roy Slade]

Two simple questions.

1. Does Mr Bedini claim that his device will allow a battery to store more energy than was put in?

    Yes or No.

2. If the answer to (1) is Yes then
    Has Mr Bedini claimed the Overunity prize?

    Yes or No. If not, why not?

ERS