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Science contradicts itself..Questions

Started by GeoscienceStudent, April 19, 2008, 10:37:44 AM

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scotty1

Hi guy's.
I was reading this site last night....it covers alot about the gyro's ect...
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/gravity.htm
I made lots of lifters as well...lifter rep No 276 on JLN Labs... ;D
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Koen..you mentioned the triangle U.F.O.....
Some people in my suburb that i know, actually filmed the same type of U.F.O.
It was on the local news so i rang them and went over there and gave them a tape to put the full clip on.
A few month's after that, my stepson went out to feed the dog and called us outside.
To the South of my place was an ORANGE ORB.
I got my video camera to film it, but the result was not so good as the orb was travelling away from me and my camera had to be on full zoom to see it.
On full zoom you can't keep the picture still without a tripod.  >:(
I went through my film and found some interesting frames...The orb even dissappeared and re-appeared in the sky....it flickered and pulsed .....it also expanded and decreased in size.
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The best clip is the one with the triangles...there are 2 triangle formations (6 lights)
I have edited the clip to show others without giving the peoples identity away...
Maybe I can put it up on leedskalnin.net
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A few weeks ago i was playing with dry ice and high voltages (from my wimhurst)
Here is the clip i made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqX4Y4tVh0
I got the idea from W Beaty.
Scotty

GeoscienceStudent

Rangerover444:

Plate Tectonics involves alot more than just plates pushing around.   There are three major types of plate movements:  Divergent (pulls away from each other, Convergent (pushes against each other) and Transverse (moves along side of each other)  There are variants of lifts that occur also with volcanic or metamorphosis under ground over periods of millions of years, not to mention sedimentation that will cause those layered affects.  Then you have to consider the type of minerals the rocks are made of how they will form due to chemical bonds, compositions, and their crystalline structures, such as cubic in halite, galena, pyrite, Dodecahedrons in garnet, octahedral in diamonds, pyramidal in quartz, and so on. Then there is CLEAVAGE determining how they "break or split along closely spaced smooth planes" (Wicander, R & Monroe, J.,1995, p. 45).  [The information on minerology has not changed in concurrent geology books but the old one is the one I happened to pull out].  Then you must understand various types of faults and how they are formed such as: Strike and Dip, Folds, [Monoclines, Anticlines ( in which  we find alot of oil fields), synclines, Plunging folds, Domes, and Basins],Joints, and Faults, [Dip-slip faults and Strike-slip faults, Oblique-slip faults].

Wicander, R & Monroe, J. (1995).  Essentials of Geology. St. Paul, MN:  West Publishing Company.

I apologize that my information is so general because there is no way with my major in Human Geography/GIS that I can teach what took an entire semester to teach me how these intricate formations occur, I would suggest you get a geology book that covers all the general topics, or take a general geology class.

Here is a link to the ( 4th ed) book, so you can read online for free:

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=rQhoyJtPixEC&dq=Wicander+%26+Monroe++Essentials+of+geology&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=-psGW22gIA&sig=2tGn2zI6Lgk3zRYZyKNpFyRJvYY&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPP1,M1

It's a pretty easy read and a shorter version than the 5th ed.  Note:  It's only a preview so the pages are limited.
Good Luck!

GeoscienceStudent

Now back to petroleum:

About 1/2 half the US imports come from Western Hemisphere, then 16% from Middle East, and the rest from "other" such as North Sea, Asia, etc.  58% of our petroleum is from imports to cover the over 26% of world petroleum use by our guzzling 4.6% world Population.  All the new technology we have make us more and more dependent on petroleum.  For example:  It takes about 3:1 ratio of petroleum product to make a gallon on biofuels.  It takes 10 calories of fossil fuel to make each calorie of food in fast food restaurants.  Pesticides and agro-chemicals are made of oil, commercial fertilizers from ammonia which are from natural gas.  most farming equipment is constructed and powered by fossil fuels.  food storage systems (refridgerators, freezers) manufactured by oil-powered plants,run on electricity from gas, & coal fuels, average food is shipped 1500 miles before it gets to a US plate (Canada average is 5000 miles). the production of one pair of cotton jeans takes 3/4 pound of fertilizers and peticides (then energy to weave and sew them).   A car takes energy equivalent of 20 barrels (840 gallons) of oil to manufacture, then runs on gasoline. and also consumes 120000 gal of water to produce.  each gallon of gasoline requires almost 2 gallons of water to refine (so there is the added problem of using up the only 1% of water available for use and drinking of the world's water supply...1% is the fresh water of the world)  The construction of a desktop computer takes 10 times its weight in fossil fuels and one gram microchip takes 630 grams of fossil fuels, plus 32 megabyte DRAM chip consumes 3.5 pounds of fossil fuel and 70.5 pounds of water (during processing they have to be washed at least twice).

Modern medicine, including ventilators, surgery equipment, Swanz Ganz, defibrillators, IV pumps, plastics for syringes, metal for needles,and other equipment take up fossil fuels to make and run the electrical equipment. 

Solar panels and Wind turbines take fossil fuels to make, then it takes an average of five square miles of solar panels to make 1000 megawatts of energy. This is do-able in the desert, but not where I live.  Solar is only about 10-13% efficient, and wind not a whole lot more (I've seen up to 35% the most, but some research varies).  Geo-thermal would be great at the Yellowstone State Park, but the environmentalists would balk because it's a park, but that would not take care of USA  (Information from Dr. G. Mason, Geologist, 2008, Sept. 22).  Producing one ton of copper takes 17.8 barrels of oil, aluminum takes 20 times higher amount.

Dr. Mason states our only true answer to this issue is in finding new, better technology.  The current technology does not hold the answer.
USA hit Hubbert's peak in the 1970's and since then we've climbed in our need for imported fuel sources.  We hold only about 3% world's resources but are 4th highest petroleum producer...in other words we are producing and using up all our resources as fast as possible.  Imagine if you had 5 apples, to last 5 days, and ate 4.5 of them in the first hour. 
Here is something scary:


Two years ago this prediction was made concerning the consequences of Peak Oil in the Chicago Tribune, Paul Salopek:  July 2006

"...the consequences would be unimaginable.  Permanent fuel shortages would tip the world into a generations-long economic depression.  Millions would lose their jobs as industry implodes."  (already happening)  "Farm tractors would be idled for lack of fuel, triggering massive famines.  Energy wars would flare." (think of Iraq/ Georgia) "And careless suburbanites would trudge to their neares big box stroes, not to buy Chinese made clothing transported cheaply across the globe, but to scavenge glass and copper wire from abandoned buildings." (Already occurring in our county, someone stripped the copper from some houses)
"...when the truth can no longer be obscured, the price will spike, the economy nosedive, "(happening here now and we're going into 11.3 trillion dollar public debt bailing out banks and AIG) "..and the underpinnings of our civilization will start tumbling like dominos." "The price of houses will collapse." (happening now here) " Stock markets will crash. "(Stock market is in a panic right now reports say...)" Within a short period, human wealth- the confidence about the future hight among traders--will shrivel." "There will be emergency summits, diplomatic initiatives, urgent exploration efforts, (Congress/ president/ Treasurer doing that now) " but the turmoil will not subside.  Thousands of companies will go bankrupt, and millions will be unemployed."  " Once affluent cities with street cafe's will have queues at soup kitchens" (people are putting up tents around Utah now...refugees and homeless) " ...and armies of beggars.  The crime rate will soar.  The earth has always been a dangerous place, but now it will become a tinderbox."  (I know this sounds a little 'doomsday' here, but he hit some good points).
"Democracy will be on the run...economic hardship will bring out the worst in people.  Fascists will rise, feeding on the anger of the newly poor and whipping up support.  These new rulers" (Think Amadinijad and Chavez) "will find the tools of repression--emergency laws, prison camps"(think Gitmo) "a relaxed attitude toward torture--already in place, courtesy of the war on terror.  And if that scenario isn't nightmarish enough, Leggett predicts that 'Big Oversight Number One' --climate change--will be simultaneously making its presence felt 'with a vengeance.'  On the heels of their rapid financial ruin, people 'will now watch aghast as their food and water supplies dwindle in the face of a climate going awry.'  Prolonged droughts will spread, decimating harvest'" (Salopek, P. 2006)

"If you are focusing solely on the price at the pump, buying a hybrid car, or getting some of those energy efficient light bulbs, you aren't seeing the bigger picture"  (Dr Mason, 2008 Sept 22 lecture).

Ken Deffeyes, Princeton professor of geology predicts total economic shut down when oil reaches $300 per barrel, or 15% world's income. 

Is Bush administration aware of this Oil production peak ? 
The answer is YES!  Even the CIA has been aware since the 1977's and now you can find them on website their discussion (now declassified) on the Hubbert's Peak hit the US in 1970's. They have been obviously studying this very carefully for some time.  This is from the 1982 State Department report:
"...world petroleum production will peak in the 1990-2010 interval "(goes with Hubbert's Peak geologists prediction was 2005-2008) " at 80-105 million barrels per day, with ultimate resources estimated a t 2,100 billion barrels." 

1999 Dick Cheney at Halliburton:
"...There will be an average of two-percent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead, along with, conservatively, a three-percent decline in production from existing reserves.  That means by 2010, we will need on the order of an additional 50 million barrels a day."  (He was wrong..we need more than that)

the nations are currently struggling to pump more than 85 million barrels per day .     Dr. Mason describes Cheney's statement as "tacit admission of the severity and imminence of Peak Oil as the possibility of the world raising its production by such a huge amount is borderline ridiculous." (Mason,G., 2008)
Cheney was asked "so where is this oil going to come from."  He answered "from the Middle East, of course."

Iraq's Council of Ministers is expected to to supply from thier oil reserves (the 3rd largest in the world) and to private companies.  This will be the first time a major Mid East producer has done so...(from Mason, G. 2008 lecture but came from report on Halliburton speech 1999).

Information from lecture: Mason, G. Professor of Geology, IUS, 2008 September 22.



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