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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Newtonian God

Quote from: infringer on May 30, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
No one should be gambling at this website you are placing this website at risk by hosting gambling on this website !!!

Infringer, don't get yourself worked up into a tizzy, it's only gambling when there is risk involved. You are guaranteed to lose if you are betting with Archer. :)

Anyway, it was a joke...just like Archer is. Rainer is just messing with you. He knows that I am not taking his money.

CLaNZeR

It is times like this that I hate the fact that I have to work away from home 5 days a week, as I could get so much more done if home everynight grrrrrr

Anywayz, got up this morning, did 6 hours work, left early, drove for 4.5 hours and now back for the weekend.

On that 4.5 hour drive most of the time was spent stuck behind slow cars and thinking about what I am going to do this weekend. I know I have comitted to family stuff and if the weather is good I have got to finish off sanding the decking and getting a coupla coats of decking oil on it.

So got home, did the usual greets, meets and hugs, then straight out in my little workshop, fired up the milling machine and cut out the two arc's for the Stator Magnets to be mounted on, ate dinner inbetween, did a couple of glasses of wine and then took some photo's!

Two arc's cutout, one for top right and populated with magnets, second for bottom left hand side with magnets yet to be press fitted in.



Approx placement of upper arc. Obviously not sticking to magnets!



I ordered some more brass this week to make the brackets I need that will suspend my weights, but they have not arrived yet. Hopefully tomorrow.

More to come

Cheers

Sean.
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thill

Quote from: noonespecial on May 30, 2008, 10:06:44 AM
Here's is my understanding of Archer's latest project (with apologies to Archer if I screw this up):

We have a typical Class 1 Lever with a 10:1 ratio. Let's put a 2 pound weight at the 10' point of the long arm and an 8 pound bowling ball at the 1' point on the short arm. Basically 20 pounds lifting 8 pounds. I think we can all agree with this so far.

Let's complicate the lever by attaching a cable at the end of the long arm...up, over and down 2 pulleys to an empty wire form carrier that will accept the 8 pound bowling ball. Let assign 1 pound to this portion.

Effectively we now have 1 pound of weight at the end of our 10' lever (2 pound weight pulling downward and 1 pound pulling up).

However we still have the 10:1 balance ratio so we now have 10 pounds lifting 8 pounds. Should still work at this point.

Once the 1 pound weight falls to its lowest point, we tip the bowling ball out of position into the wire form carrier.

We now have 9 pounds of falling weight lifting lifting the 2 pound weight and 10' arm back to its original position.

We extract the bowling ball from the wire form and roll it back on to the original 1' position and cycle continues..........

The problem I see with this is that when the 8lbs + the 1lb of wire form carrier falls the 2' back to its original 1' position it would create 9lbs over 2'

so with that falling force you have 9lb x 2' = 18lb/ft, which to get the arm with the 2lb extended side back to its original position would require 2lbs x 20' = 40lb/ft, meaning that it would take 40lb falling 1' to bring it back to its original position and seeing that we only create 18lb/ft that tells me that it would never bring it back up.

Correct me if I wrong but I dont think I am. 

DarkStar_DS9

Quote from: Newtonian God on May 30, 2008, 03:45:57 PM
Infringer, don't get yourself worked up into a tizzy, it's only gambling when there is risk involved. You are guaranteed to lose if you are betting with Archer. :)

Or guaranteed to win if you would happen to have a wheel doing it's thing already ;)

Quote from: Newtonian God
Anyway, it was a joke...just like Archer is. Rainer is just messing with you. He knows that I am not taking his money.

Well since I don't know you, I did not *know* that you wouldn't take the money. My guess was that you would refuse it saying that you are not in the business of ripping off gullible idiots.

Anyway - relax, nothing happened here today ;)

hartiberlin

Please All,
no online gambling over here.
Just do it privately in email, if you wish to do so...
and please no flame wars and bad language.
Please calm down.

Well, nice builds from Sean again and Mark Olsen and Archer is
also going fast forward as I have seen from his latest pictures.

Sorry, don?t have much time to follow this thread in the moment, so
I will wait, if somebody will finally get it to work.

Regards, Stefan.
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