Roll on the 20th June

[Rusty_Springs]

Graham just a thought    I bet we could use your open bottom V  gates [stationary]  on a disc    on the back side like a variable speed   sliding in or out to grab [push] mags on the back like a speed controller  or a brake [load] I wonder if clutch packs like this would take out a lot of tuning    maybe add more power?

Hi Chet
It may work but it will have to be at the attracting side because I checked it out with repeling and it couldn't push them up.
Take Care Chet
Graham

[badassdjbynight]

From http://www.surphzup.com/gpage.html

This is where the conundrum of science lies, weight has no correlation to the length or travel of a fulcrum, as the shape and weight distribution of a fulcrum is indeterminate. In short when using a beam to lift a given weight, the pivot point is pushed forward until the length of beam you have can lift the weight. So a fulcrum and pivot that is set will have a set maximum weight to weight ratio, you can set it at 2 to 1 or 10 to 1 or greater. 10 to 1 meaning 1 kilo on the extended end will lift 10 kilos on the short end side of the pivot point or fulcrum.

This is not a conundrum of science.  It is true that as you move the pivot point forward you do raise the amount of weight it will lift, but you also proportionally decrease the height to which you can lift it.  There is no mystery here.

What you keep doing Archer is make these leaps in logic.  By leaving out the important missing part here, the rest of your conclusions are invalidated.

Actually.. it is very cool that a lever works the way it does and that it allows you to transfer energy to do work for you.  It is actually the law of conservation of energy that allows it to work.  But work in = work out.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

i just loaded that link at the end of the math to show the world how newtonians think and how dumb you really are.

[exxcomm0n]

@ BADJ

K....you're right, the heavy end doesn't travel the distance the lighter end does.

Creative that you used Phun.

I heard about it and looked at it closely as a cool tool to use for simulation, linux based, and source code would be available.

That got me thinking.....source code.........

I wondered what mathematical formulas they would be using to display these principles, and realized that to be a "proper" representation of physics, it would have to have the latest accepted theories or laws written into it for that purpose.

What this whole thing is (thread) is an affront to those laws that were used for the writing of the program.

I'm not seeing it as a good rebuttal using those tools.

Please keep trying though, until my wheel spins without my "encouragement", your right to debate is just as valid as mine.

Time will tell.

P.S. Instead of software, I used a brick, broom handle, and piece of PVC pipe to explore the concept. I still think it deserves to be looked at.
This is my opinion, and as far as I'm concerned, just as valid and useful as anyone elses until the can prove to me with physical materials that it's not possible.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

for those interested i just cleaned the math page back to basics not using my own machine so that it is more easily understood, i also made note of how to tip the heavy weight off the end for you.