Roll on the 20th June

[yaz]

" This is where Newton?s teachings screw everything up and logic goes out the door. try really basic logic, if you have i cup full of helium, will it lift 1ton of weight? absolutely not says smokey by using Newton?s calculations as they do not include environment, i say it will. Think logic and simple."

Ok, how about this: Get a hot air balloon, fill it with enough helium until it perfectly balances out the weight of the 1 ton load. Place the cup of helium under the balloon, lift the lid off the cup. The extra cup of helium added should make the balloon lift the 1 ton weight. Remove 1 cup of helium from the balloon and the 1 ton weight should fall back down....I really don't know, just throwing ideas out there..Love this thread. Can't wait till June 20th!! :

[ramset]

I guess we have to wait till Archer gets home from work [doesn't seem right the guy changing the world punching a clock while Rome burns]  not his fault just don't like it  Chet

[Gustav22]

I think Archer's design need not make use of magnetism, as he says he simply wants to reverse gravity,
or rather reverse the effect of gravity, so that it pushes (up the rods) on one side and pulls up on the other.
Push coming to shove, so to speak.

edit: The drawing I had posted here was flawed. I deleted it and will revise it.

[atlantex]

Hi,

the 1ton weight could be cut in many tiny pieces and then lift piece by piece.

Another possibillity is to use a lever which is long enouth on the cup side...



Are the rings,washers or what it is shiftable on the shaft or is it fixt to the shown position?


atlantex

[The Eskimo Quinn]

wow has taken 3 hours to get on here, just kept going to that user hartiberlin exceeded page.

Yaz wins, albeit that it is not a hot air balloon but a helium balloon that is sealed as helium balloons are. the object was to show you tipping point, when any weight has a counter weight "or lift" on the verge of the tilt then it takes nothing to do this, to move the cup is nothing, you do not need to move a ton or a shitload of helium.

so too you do not need vast weights moved. Newton?s error is singular thought, the variant has always been environment, if the weight already exists then the energy required is equal to moving the cup of helium. and before we get too carried away. "no" this device has no helium or any gas.

for a basic show yourselves how it works i have uploaded a story to my website to follow and instructions to do this yourself, once you know this is fact, not math, then you will understand more why Newton?s calculations can't ever be correct.

remember when you are done, that this turbine is as normal as any in existence.

ah if free energy was only that simple is the cry, ahh if only we had a wing shape flying around our heads everyday so we'd know what to use and build plans, ahhhhh if only.

email me yaz so i have your email address