Roll on the 20th June

[legendre]

g4macdad,

You want us to believe everyone here, has a different purpose/intention. Then you tell us all "Christians" have the same purpose/intention.

Nope, he never said that.. you just made that up to fit with the other made-up stories that inform your worldview.

This is bold face prejudice.

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Live by the sword, Die by the sword of God! G'Day!

Ah! Now you see the violence inherent in the system!!



Speaking of communists, that's a nice bit of iconography in your avatar. It suits him well to be portrayed in the style of Che Guevara. Viva la revolution!

-L

[Sprocket]

Sprocket

What I am going by is a design evaluation only. I believe that Bessler did the wheel and it was powerful with gravity only and he didn't have to work it up to power but adjust the design to work smoothly instead of shaking apart. What I see here with Archer Quinn is at best a magnet trick with less than useful application. To look at it this way. How big will the magnets have to be to move 100 lbs upward in a slide. It would have to be a magnetic monstrosity and it would be hard pressed to operate itself with what it could produce. But with a proper mechanical gravity wheel, you will get 100% of what it can produce and not have to feed back to make it work.

I have little doubt that a well thought-out working gravity wheel would be far more efficient - but this is not a gravity wheel!  Moreover, 300 years on and functioning gravity wheels are non-existent - at least as far as the general public are concerned, which is what really matters - so until a working gravity wheel is publically displayed, stating that gravity wheels are more effecient is nonsensical!

Also, just raising questions of "efficiency" at this stage is ludricous - are you seriously suggesting that matters of efficiency outweigh both the proof of OU and the disproving of Newtons so-called laws?  I have no doubt that should Archer's machine work, it will not be efficient, but then, neither was practically every thing that has ever been invented at first!  However, once the general principle is understood, huge increases in efficiency are the obvious consequence.

Also note, there are multiple threads on the OU forum concerning gravity wheels and they seem to attract barely a murmer from the sceptics - ergo, it would appear that gravity wheels are not percieved as a threat - whereas Archer Quinn's one thread has the sceptics signing up in droves - now that to me says that AQ has got someones attention

[hartiberlin]

Okay, I just made a movie of the
Archer principle user Broli
has suggested and here are the WM2D
and the AVI movie:

www.overunity.com/archer


Here are 3 screenshots of the movie:

[hartiberlin]

The problem in my animation simulation is,
that if you make the pulley rope shorter, then
if the rope is straigthenedin the above first picture,
all the forces balance out
and the fulcrum will not move at all and the red weight will not go down !
So I need to make the pulley rope longer to hang loose at the start.

The left yellow weight is 40Kg and the red
weight is 11 Kg.
The fulcrum weight is only a few grams, so it does not count in..

I am giving the yellow weight a short push via a force ONLY  at frame 140,
so it drops out of the leverarm.

( In a 3 D world, it could just fall out of the lever arm to the side,
but I could not simulate this with this 2D only simulator program.)


Well, as the rope is too long, the yellow weight falls too deep, so
there must be a different solution to this  rope-pulley system...

I guess the easiest solution would be to move the pivot point back and
forth during the process...

Have to ponder more about it...
If you have better ideas, let them flow in.. 

Regards, Stefan.

[infringer]

In thinking the more arms you have the less move ment you would need to make it to 7 or 1 oclock depending upon how you look at it... I know this adds that much more wieght to the wheel as well to pull up...

but if we have two rods extended at any one time out of the three this is going to create an excellent amount of downward force I would think.

The weight has to extend past magnets like so kinda

sorry for the horrible picture but I dislike my synaptics pointer on my laptop kinda tuff to control..

Hartiberlin intersting really now if the weight was heavy enough that fall could spin a hydroelectric or hydrolic turbine....

If they put hydrolic plates and turbines under all of our road ways we could generate enough power to cut down the price of electricity generation ... And seeing as how it is the people generating the electricity well they could sell the electric to pay for our roadway repairs...