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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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ramset

OHH.. the world loves a sucker puncher their the real HEROES a sucka puncha's!!!!  Thanks we owe you one   good job!!!  Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Morgenster

Quote from: purepower on June 03, 2008, 01:36:13 PM


@Morgenster

Also, "The whole levers and fulcrum stuff is just mindblowingly inaccurate and he doesn't make any effort to present his ideas clearly. If that's the theory behind the wheel this does not inspire trust." You are referring to Archer here, right? From the flow of talking about finding the values of magnets (which I suggested) to this makes it seem like you are referring to me, which I must oppose. I have been entirely detailed and accurate through the entirety of my analysis. Any clarification needed by anyone, feel free to ask.


Not referring to you. Referring to the ramblings of the Quinn.
Like I said earlier. His wheelconcept became less and less credible with each weird theory he added.
So now I'm just gonna hang back till the 20th.

Dgraphic911

Chet,


I have no clue who you are or have i ever responded to you, i don't wis to become an object of your attacks but just wanted to say One thing.

Come on, Quinn has gone absolutely no where, Guys like him crave attention. He will be back long before the 20th to play with all those who want to keep listening. If hes not already here under another alias. If one thing is certain, the sun wil rise tomorrow, i will have to pay taxes, i will someday die, and guys like Quinn NEVER never NEVER go away for long.
Unless he gets a girlfriend then all bets are off.

Until then use his bzatches

You say thank god,
I potatoe.

Evg

Why Archers leaving is a setback to free energy.
Again, if free energy will ever be possible, it will not come from forums on the internet.
I used to belief that people could work together on an idea, no matter how basic or controversial the idea maybe at the beginning.
All my live I have heard the same scenario from people around me, especially people close to me or family, Free energy is impossible, stop wasting your time. I don?t go around telling acquaintances of my handicap of being born with an inquiring (but strange) mind.
Then the internet started and found hundreds of people all like minded (so I thought) who believed free energy was possible.
Since believing in free energy, I thought Wow! We can all work together to a goal to set our minds at ease and discover we are not weird people after all.
So together, we at the beginning, put forward ideas on what is needed to achieve free energy, and work on that, but then I discovered it is not quite that simple, just as in real live, believers in free energy are all different, we also have the debunkers who enjoy showing their power as being a superior person and down grading ideas they don?t understand instead of looking for loopholes to make that idea work.
It is not often that I read; Nice idea but it will not work because of??but if you change ??. It could overcome??
What I often read is it won?t work (full stop) or A equation that has been lifted from another place on the net which is suppose to stop the original idea dead in it?s track.
So in my own mind what is needed is a forum with believers in free energy that start with one idea (any) and finish with that idea until all options have been considered and then start on the next idea. Lately I have been at the computer for far too much and forgot the basics, instead of planning and building possible wheels. I do admire people who put a lot of energy in their built and make their builds look like they come straight out of the factory. OPEN SOURCE the way  to go.

purepower

@sm0ky2

You say "the Energy is NOT E=mgh.  This is ONLY the case @ 6:00 - when the magnets leave the effective fields. the correct energy value is:   E = m (g -M1 - M2) h   ; where M1 and M2 are the force variants..." This is a complete and utterly false fabrication you have conceived at an ill fated attempt to discredit me. Simple proof: check your units. m*(g - M1 - M2)*h == kg*[m/(s^2) - kg*m/(s^2) - kg*m/(s^2)]*m which cannot be simplified to kg*(m^2)/(s^2), or Joules, the SI unit for energy. Where is your proof for the conclusion?

You also say "The input energy is still less than the Potential Energy the magnets have when they leave the effective fields." Again, proof? Data? How did the magnets rise to this potential energy with less energy than it takes to get there? And the acceleration due to gravity IS ALWAYS = 9.81 m/(s^2). Just because other forces are acting upon the body to prevent it from going into free fall acceleration does not mean the value of g (and therefor the weight of body) has changed. You are right when you say "the magnetic forces are pushing the rod UPWARDS, which SUBTRACTS from the effects of gravity." It changes the effects realized by the body, but gravity is still pulling on it the same as it always has. By your analogy, a ball on a desk has an altered gravitational acceleration in comparison to a ball in free fall, which any high school physics student would be quick to point out as false.

You also say "The "extension" of the weighted rods - provides leverage with which to overcome the "magnetic wall". This causes the wheel to require far less momentum to overcome that barrier - result being a "breaking of the wall" using a mass small enough for the magnets to lift back to the starting position." Sorry, but no additional leverage is gained by placing the weights out at the end, I have already provided a mathematical proof for this in an earlier proof (will provide diagram tonight if you still dont get it). Place the same weights anywhere on the lever and the torsional effect will be the same. One thing you sort of brought out that I will agree with is the added angular momentum. By having the weights out at the end, the wheel would carry more angular momentum than a wheel with weights located at the mass center. So its not that the wheel will require less momentum, its that the wheel will achieve the same momentum with less angular velocity.

@Slavo
Fitting name, seeing how you sure are acting like one of Archer's slaves... But I wont resort to name calling like you and Archer have. Such spite from such a confident man. Is that the only reason you posted, to call names?

@dirt digger
Actually a sine wave looks nothing like an ellipse, even for a full 360 cycle. Please refer to the following link (please note: sine wave is the red, cos is blue; angle in terms of radians (2pi radians = 360 degrees)):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine_wave

And the mechanical advantage remains constant through the ENTIRE rotation. What changes is the change in work (or energy) per degree, as depicted by the graph.

@Dgraphic911
Couldn't have said it better myself...

TO ALL (believers and nonbelievers, Archurians and Newtonians):

Evg may be onto something here. We have all become so involved with who's right and who's wrong, who's out to destroy the dream and who's a true supporter, who is in it for glory and who is in it for mankind that we have lost the true value and purpose of this site. We have become more involved with proving each other right or wrong and have not been focused on our work. We have a world to save, let's get to it and give each other a hand.

I did not start posting in spite or mallace for what Archer did. I started posting because the public needed to be aware of the truth, both in who Archer is and his devices/concepts. I have absolutely no desire to set anyone back in their progress; I have simply taken out the broken tools from their toolbox of knowledge.

Agree or disagree with my figures and analysis, makes no difference to me. You will find the truth eventually.