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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Quote from: CLaNZeR on May 02, 2008, 01:31:48 PM
Are these simply sliding weights?



Cheers

Sean.


If these are simply weights, notice the left hand side one is obviously smaller.But same count disks.

Could a liquid be applied to this arrangement that will disperse within a given time frame?

So many wild ideas ummmmm



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CLaNZeR

Quote from: oak on May 02, 2008, 05:13:34 PM
I can't imagine how this could work.  It would seem to require much more energy to change the plane of rotation of the device than to move a small weight (relative to the entire mass of the flywheel) from one location to the opposite location.

Archer did suggest, or at least strongly hint, that the weight being moved from one location to another is small compared to the overall weight of the total rotating mass.  It is the relatively large momentum of the rotating mass that supposedly allows you to do that (however it is you do it!).

If using the energy of the turning mass then I would agree, but if using a energy that is also present such as gravity, then surley it is just a matter of alignment and placement and then hence letting gravity do it's natural thing.

You would of thought we would be tired of guessing games by now  ;D ;D, but all part of the fun!
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xbww

After following this topic and reading Archers website, I am faily confident of the following:

a. There are 3 tubes mounted to the front of the wheel, like an asterisk.
b. There are weights in the tubes that shift the weight up at the 1 or 2 position and the 6 or 7 position at the same time.
c. The machine takes electricity to run but puts out more than it uses.
d. It is very simple, nothing fancy. I would doubt any use of air pressure or anything exotic.
e. It is highly likely that it uses electromagents that are timed by a switch to pulse and shift the weight.

Does anyone know how fast the wheel would need to spin in order to generate enough electricity to power one (or maybe two) electromagnets and still have 90% extra energy? He claims the system uses 10% of the power it generates. My guess is that the weights are attached to a pole that runs thru the tube. This way, you could use one pulse of a magnet on the outer edge above the 1:00 position to pull up the weight at both the 1 and 6 positions at the same time. So, how much power does it take to pulse an electromagnet? Can anyone do the calculations and see if this is feasible?

CLaNZeR

Quote from: xbww on May 02, 2008, 05:22:14 PM
After following this topic and reading Archers website, I am faily confident of the following:

a. There are 3 tubes mounted to the front of the wheel, like an asterisk.
b. There are weights in the tubes that shift the weight up at the 1 or 2 position and the 6 or 7 position at the same time.
c. The machine takes electricity to run but puts out more than it uses.
d. It is very simple, nothing fancy. I would doubt any use of air pressure or anything exotic.
e. It is highly likely that it uses electromagents that are timed by a switch to pulse and shift the weight.

Does anyone know how fast the wheel would need to spin in order to generate enough electricity to power one (or maybe two) electromagnets and still have 90% extra energy? He claims the system uses 10% of the power it generates. My guess is that the weights are attached to a pole that runs thru the tube. This way, you could use one pulse of a magnet on the outer edge above the 1:00 position to pull up the weight at both the 1 and 6 positions at the same time. So, how much power does it take to pulse an electromagnet? Can anyone do the calculations and see if this is feasible?

From experience with Horizontal Rotors rather than vertical, hence excluding gravity, it takes more energy to pulse a coil to launch the rotor on it's way than the energy created from the rotation of the rotor. Adding magnets to the coils (solenoid) and simply letting the magnet do the work rather than the coil reduces the energy needed, but still needs more energy to pulse the solenoid than what is produced by the rotation.
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Hi Sean
Yes I was thinking it would take more energy to move the system, then I thought like you what if you used gravity, I was thinking if you weight was on a hinge and a bearing going horizontal then the arm with the weight is on the hinge and the hinge on the bearing when the arm drops the hinge opens until the hinge comes to a stop at that point the force would turn the arm on the bearing so it drops verticaly and turns horizontaly with out any extra energy needed then when it reaches your starting position you use an electromagnet to lift it back up and start again.
Take Care Sean
Graham