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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Newtonian God

Quote from: Slavo on June 04, 2008, 02:21:18 AM
none of the gravity wheels was ever proven to work?
bessler's wheel

you're a goddamn liar master mason

Do you have a shred of proof that Bessler's wheel actually worked?

No, I did not think so.

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Newtonian God
"You can believe in perpetual motion and be thought a fool, or you can believe in Archer Quinn and remove all doubt."

DarkStar_DS9

Quote from: Bubba1 on June 03, 2008, 08:26:55 PM
Quinn has improved his homepage http://www.surphzup.com/index.html  It includes the phrase "momentum from fall has always been the true source of free energy."  What does that mean?  What does he think he understands about levers that has escaped the rest of humanity for 12,000 years?

I don't know. But I was thinking about something that might be related:

If you use a wheel instead of a lever (draw a line thru the center, this line is your "beam"), does that still work like a lever (1kg mounted 5 meters from the center will be equal to 5kg mounted 1m away, thus 1+x kg will lift the 5kg 1/5th the distance the 1kg travels, x must overcome the friction)?

I'd think that this gives you a "massless" lever (a wheel is always balanced, no matter where you turn it - save for imperfections of the wheel), but that might be wrong. If it is not (wrong), it eliminates the need to return the lever to the start position because you would only have to evenly distribute mounting-points.

Now if the wheel's radius is big enough to allow the weight (x) to accelerate to it's max velocity, what happens when you remove all weights at a certain point? Will the wheel not have momentum and continue to turn? Will the weights not "want" to continue their movement? If the weights are spheres and the "remove weights from wheel"-part is done in a way like "rail picks up sphere", would the sphere not continue to roll on the rail until friction stops it? Would it maybe also climb up on a slight slope? If I would then use another lever (or a 1:5 pulley) to lift the smaller weight - x by adding "another x" to the heavy weight - will the weights not end up higher than they started?

Now I have to factor in the cost of lifting 2x, but I also have the wheel turning, and if I double the weights, will I also have to double x to overcome the friction?

Honestly, I didn't put much (or: none) thought / research into this, it is just something that keeps popping up in my mind. And even though there might be no way to actually build the pickup-system, I would like to see if a theoretical construct (even with friction of the axle and the pickup-system unconsidered) would be OU.

Regards,

Rainer

onesnzeros

Quote from: ramset on June 03, 2008, 10:18:32 PM
ARCHER  looks like 2000  or more reads on your thread today [here] sweet  Chet

Chet you're breaking the first commandment

onesnzeros

ramset

one nothing      a day has 24 hrs 
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

spyblue

Hello people.. this post are interesting but sincerely I don´t know how Mr Quinn want be respected if every time he write bad words and offensive sentences, that´s not a behavior of a person that want just show an ideia, he act like want force an idea.. because it almost people don´t give a chance. I´m sorry but he write like a children.. how we can consider his idea by this way ?  ???

Sorry my bad english.. was my first post.

Thank´s