Roll on the 20th June

[infringer]

Why use AVS media ?

Super is free I pm'd you a link to it in your pm at the website ... Very simple to use and you should be able to use say flv at a higher bitrate or xvid I dont do youtube video so I am unsure of the size restraints.

Differnt codecs are better for streaming vids and cut down on pixelation as well...

The mad scientist Archer Quinn

[exxcomm0n]

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I am giving you such leeway to prove your device because at this point I have become disgusted with the debate. The Newtonians have provided factual, conceptual data and analysis for their argument. The Archurians return with insults and broken logic. If you read the general trend of the posts since the rod scandal was uncovered, your side has lost a lot of momentum and has been appealing to emotion rather than logic. There is nothing you can say that will ever regain your credibility at this point, so dont bother. Five cycles, no intervention, returns precisely to its original state. Done.

@ purepower

If the device proves out, I assume that Archer would want to provide a video of it running much longer than that showing how to harvest the energy.

Until that happens the thing IS about as useful as a drinking bird desk ornament.

Everyone is in a tizzy about the lever.

I want to see the weight transport mechanics!

That is what I don't understand yet. I have theories about how it is done, but it think it would be a much more problematic area.

....and since you're going anyway........

Your dismissed.
Have a nice day!

[Unregistered]

Hello everyone. I've been following this thread ever since it was posted on Engadget on May 5th and to be perfectly honest I have had a hard time comprehending Archers explanation's until he put it in monkey terminology. I now believe I fully understand how the Egyptian lever works and acknowledge that overunity is not just possible but inevitable. So Mr. Quinn I just wanted to say that your video's are making a world of a difference to me. Thanks and keep fighting the good fight!

[purepower]

Okay Archer, I'm going to try to meet you half way here. I have built my lever. By using a truss structure, it is very rigid. As everyone can see from the pics, it is a 5:1 ratio (count the blue joints across the top). I apologize for the toy construction, but it will give me very accurate results. I know the exact mass of the entire lever, the center of mass for the lever, the exact mass of each end, the center of mass for each end. I have even devised my own "control rod" system by extending a body off the short end. As you can see, I can vary its location as to change the balance of the entire lever. I even have it rotate on an axis above the lever as you do for yours.

With it balanced, I have only achieved 5:1. With it unbalanced, it will lift more, but thats because it is unbalanced and the extended end is contributing. Now, how am I to get 20:1 lift? Where is the free energy?

[exxcomm0n]

Okay Archer, I'm going to try to meet you half way here. I have built my lever. By using a truss structure, it is very rigid. As everyone can see from the pics, it is a 5:1 ratio (count the blue joints across the top). I apologize for the toy construction, but it will give me very accurate results. I know the exact mass of the entire lever, the center of mass for the lever, the exact mass of each end, the center of mass for each end. I have even devised my own "control rod" system by extending a body off the short end. As you can see, I can vary its location as to change the balance of the entire lever. I even have it rotate on an axis above the lever as you do for yours.

With it balanced, I have only achieved 5:1. With it unbalanced, it will lift more, but thats because it is unbalanced and the extended end is contributing. Now, how am I to get 20:1 lift? Where is the free energy?

Wow.

You really don't see that the way you're attaching the weight it's creating an extension to the lever?
It looks more like 5:3 in pictures 2 & 3.