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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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winner

Folks,

In Archer's video (1 of 4 in 1st set), I see that he's strapped a large bundle of tube sections on the short arm of his lever, which might precisely counterbalance the long arm. Doesn't this negate the arguments for the long arm adding substantial weight, assuming a constant weight per length? Perhaps with no weights on either arm, the lever IS balanced? Have I missed something?
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ragnew

Has anybody heard if the big Roll Out is Still on for June 20th?
I took a look at the Steorn Site and couldn't see it being mentioned there.

Rich

purepower

@Winner

It doesnt. Take a look at the pictures on his site that shows the lever unloaded and balanced. It has about four of five 3kg control rods sticking out from the short end.

-PurePower

exxcomm0n

Quote from: purepower on June 07, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
@exxc0mmon

Okay. I saw your video, it proves nothing. I want you to do something for me. I know youre probably in the pool, so get to it when you can.

I just want you to put your video back up so people can judge for themselves.

Rather convenient that it's "No Longer Available" since a video rebuttal was posted to it.
If it's a computer glitch @ the Tube, then please disregard.

Otherwise you withdrew the one thing that gives you right to say I'm right or wrong.

Quote from: purepower on June 07, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
Take your same set up, but build a fulcrum a bit higher up, you will see why in a moment. Now place the ruler on the fulcrum at exactly the 10" mark. Put a thin piece of tap across to prevent it from sliding around, but dont let hit hinder the motion.

Now, place some magnets UNDER the ruler on the short end to balance it out. These are your "control rods." Okay, so now we have a balanced, level lever. Place five magnet at the 12" mark. Place one magnet at the 0" mark. Amazing! A balance 5:1 lever (10":2") produces 5:1 lift (5magnets:1magnet). Newtonian logic lives on!

Put it under??????
Was your control arm setup under?

Can I see it again to verify that please?

Wait! I'll get into my temporary internet files and fish it out!
There IS more than one way to skin a cat!

Or, I can wait and reload the page, and it pops back up after................now why do videos become unavailable for short times?
That there might have been what seems to be some video editing?

Nah.
But lets look @ it now.

Neither the control arms, nor the weight upon them are mounted underneath the lever in your video. They seem to be in line (or as an extension of), or on top of the lever extension.

Quote from: purepower on June 07, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
Now, take the same apparatus, but this time place, say, 20 magnets at the 12" mark and 1 magnet at the 0" mark FIRST.

It took @ least 27 just to counter act the weight of the lever itself.
Why will taking approx. 7 away and adding one to the long end change that??
It's a 13" ruler (13.25" now that I measure it with a tape measure).

But as I said in the video it was an APPROXIMATE measurement and in this one I measure it for you.

Quote from: purepower on June 07, 2008, 04:26:48 PM0.0
Now take your "control rod" magnets and place them under the short end so the lever is just barley favored to the extended end. Now remove the one magnet at the 0" mark. THIS SETUP IS EXACTLY LIKE ARCHER'S IN VIDEO 4/4. Notice how the extended end is raised with the magnet off? Now place the one magnet back on. Notice how it falls back down? Surprised? Still think there's free energy? If you answered yes to either of those last two questions, get back in the pool and give up your "backyard engineering" career.

-PurePower

It was cheap, easy, convenient, and somewhat satisfying to make and edit the videos, since it's a childish see-saw toy that I build, it shouldn't be this enjoyable.

But calling someone out with proof that either doesn't seem to get the concept, or is actively trying to undermine it is priceless.

Drum roll please!

http://www.youtube.com/v/Cd8bxAeHGm0

Bing.

http://www.youtube.com/v/g58gpyqqlHA

Bang.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5w4-xG63_XU

Bong................................ and now I think I'll have one.

:D

But while I've been sitting here, I went to post my last reply to it, and it's unavailable again.

What gives?

P.S. It took literally hours to make this post. I mean like 6 or 7 with multiple pool forays and food and............stuff.

Takes time to setup and shoot (well, you saw that, or will see, or are going to see after you read this....... I hope so anyway).

VOBs take time to render into AVIs, even if the frame aspect is shrunken.

Takes time to upload them, one by one, to the Tube.

Takes time to add to this post, step by step, like <gasp> scientific method!

But I don't want you to think I did this in insane misplaced anger, or spite, or "oneupmanship", even though your thoughts have become not that important to me as I can't follow how you arrive at your conclusions..

But everyone elses thoughts can be, and should be given the right to do so without hindrance.
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Rusty_Springs

Hi Power
I take no offense in what you say because I see you as an intelligent man with alot of commen sence. I also think this thread is doing well now by talking things through and not name calling, I am making that statment before I read the next 3 or so post so I maybe a bit early in that statement.
Take Care Power
Graham