Roll on the 20th June

[Evg]

Something good did come out of this thread (apart from whatever happens on 20 June)
A free energy website where you will get banned if you call another member a liar, a FÂ....wit or a moron, etc.. Also equations are of the high school limits. Negative/positive ideas to some other posts are known to be opinions only and not downgrading the original idea. Thanks Infringer. (now there are 2 great websites (OU and the new one)) 

[exxcomm0n]

Wow.

Now I can understand how some women abhor disruptions of their schedules as it puts them off their soaps and it's so hard to catch up.

No, I do not have videoed representation cause I don't have a valve.

Nope, pop bottles don't have nearly the rigidity necessary from recent minor experimentation, gotta be 5 gal. buckets.
I need to cruise a few restaurant garbage containers, but they're still pretty rare cause restaurants recycle them for food containers. Maybe  a construction site.

Shopping list so far is:

2 - 5gal buckets with lids (tanks)
4 - 1/4" nylon 90 degree thread/barb fittings (sight glass)
2 - 1/4" nylon valve thread/barb fitting
1 - 1/2"" nylon 90 degree thread/barb fitting
1 - 1/2"" nylon valve straight or 90 degree thread/barb fitting (waffling on the orientation).
1 - short piece 1 1/2" PVC (have this)
2 - 1 1/2" threaded PVC pipe ends (long enough to deal w/ the curvature of the buckets)
PVC cleaner and cement
5' - 1/4" rigid or vinyl tubing (clear would be nice for rigid)
backflow preventers??

Now there are 2 camps as to how siphons work:

1.) http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/546445/siphon  -  gravity

2.) http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010105.html   -   atmospheric pressure

.....and I think it's a weird mixture of the 2 blending, and bending the way we know their "laws".

But I don't know, that's why I ask or build.

I'm building on this one cause I asked repeated and I ain't heard back yet and it was at least within topic "spur".

Let's take physical examples everyone has done.

I know I can dip a drinking straw into a liquid, close off the upper end with my finger, and withdraw the straw from the liquid container, and have it contain liquid to the highest level it was immersed (surface tension has a little to do with this too. But, alas, a subject for another day).

Because the weight of the atmosphere in the trapped end of the straw weighs much less than the surrounding atmosphere, the liquid stays in. There is not enough weight to the water to break the surface tension created by surrounding atmospheric pressure.
The area at the top of the trapped area is technically a vacuum, or sealed atmosphere.

When you take a sealed drink bottle and puncture it near it's bottom gravity pulls the liquid out 1st, and then is opposed by natures abhorrence of vacuum and is stopped until atmosphere is pulled in to equalizes pressure, and it pendulums between the 2 until the level of liquid is below the opening and neither can effect it.

The larger the hole, the better the grip of gravity can defeat the atmospherically created surface tension, and the more vacuum it can create before atmosphere again wrestles for equilibrium.

Sort of.
In a weird way, gravity makes water want atmosphere on top of it.
(Again, you know, stoner me. I just like the way it sounds.)

That's where this episode ends as the experimentation I have done is making me look into it a little more about the gravity atmosphere war.

@ Smoky

@ Exx,

    What did you think of my idea to use "square rods" with (Not Your) Linear Bearings?

Ummm...if that was in a post I missed it.

As long as your magnets are finely aligned so the field is uniform it'll probably not be a bother.

If the fields are out of whack, the uneven fields start that torsion effect everyone talks about and each side of the square becomes a lever with the point of the fulcrum (corner) making it, if not the only point of contact depending on tolerances, the major friction on a linear bearing (cylinder type) and the 1 spot that might lead you to entropy.
The bearing is no longer sharing the load across it's surface.
There's also the resulting twisting of the square bar that may occur due to torsion. This might, or might not effect you depending on your design.
If torsion starts it twisting, the ends can lock because the other end of the rod will always twisted opposite of the twisting happening on the push side.

Again, it's about design. Is your rod 1 width and depth for it's entire length?

Either way, friction will eat momentum and kill spin, IMHO.

But really, how am I supposed to know?

I like the even application of force. This is why I'm still looking into the moving 7 wall.

@ Archer

Man,
It's appreciated, but unnecessary. I'm pretty resilient as I thought was previously evidenced.
Even though you are the beneficiary,and I think your devices can work, I'm still of a mind that ANYONE  should be afforded the right not to be hounded until the projected due date is passed.

You've made a deadline here, and the best way to help me is to make it.

@ redrider

You all need to kiss and make up

it is fun to see you all fightin

its the only reason i come here anymore...lol

Ain't it though? I liken it to the coliseum in Rome, as there are animal acts too.
....and you get to bait them.

it would be neat to put all of you in a small room for a couple of hours

to see who makes it out

i bet exx would be the only one

carring buckets of water out of a basement builds muscle

Dude, I'm not particularly built, but I fight dirty.

Nite kids.

[Thaelin]

   Starting to sound like a political forum or maybe just a plain old shark hunt.

those that cant see it, watch out for the snow ball coming down the hill behind you. Surprise you on just how big its got.

thaelin

[spinner]

I see the Mighty Quinn is still confused about everything... I must admit I never saw so delusional person before...
The Flat Earth Society comes to mind, but they're still less cranky...

I thought that at least some of AQ's "cheerleaders" would engage a few of their braincells, but I see now it's hopeless...

AQ & co., you've done so much good for a free-energy.... Thank you! You'll be remembered.

[MrKai]

Something good did come out of this thread (apart from whatever happens on 20 June)
A free energy website where you will get banned if you call another member a liar, a F?.wit or a moron, etc.. Also equations are of the high school limits. Negative/positive ideas to some other posts are known to be opinions only and not downgrading the original idea. Thanks Infringer. (now there are 2 great websites (OU and the new one)) 

Evg:

Basically, you are saying that a place where people shown to be ignorant are allowed to lie, where knowledge, learning and education are suppressed, and proof is dismissed as false if it makes people feel sad is the best place, and the best way to accomplish a goal.


And you think that "the man" is "keeping FE" away from you? Heh. "The Man" sees stuff like your advocacy and realizes that there is *nothing* to worry about


I honestly do not understand this. It is like believing tomatoes are poisonous, and killing anyone that tries to prove otherwise. If you happen to eat a bucket of tomatoes and live, you are jailed then killed.

Of course, the above SOUNDS SILLY until you realize that it was actually held to be true

You cannot mix Philosophy and Science without getting crap. You can use philosophy to discuss the repercussions of science, for example, but mixing the two gives you junk. Psuedo. Nonsense.

I am glad you enjoy Infringer's effort at suppressing the truth under the guise of searching for it.

It is fraught with implication and doomed to failure, and I am GLAD that Harti has the sense to not allow the banning of knowledge and the dumbing down of the process.

While OU.com seems to have its fill of loose screws, the core seems good. I certainly wouldn't trade it for someplace where ignorance is encourage under the guise of "true learning"

-K