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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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CLaNZeR

Hi Graham

Nope I am saying the wheel reacted sometimes the way I expected it to and the same way as other gravity wheels I have built have acted over time.
The weights and the magnets balanced out as I expected. But I still get the impression that Archer knows and means this. I am still waiting for the 20th to see the secret of getting past this inbalance,

The things you have been debating and arguing about on this thread I take for granted and have done for many years, it is nothing new and has been discussed in many other threads in these forums. What I am waiting for is the secret to be revealed that gets over what I call the "balance of natural laws". I still hope the 20th brings a component I am missing this end, we shall see!!.

Archer did indeed state that he built a toy machine in the past that continued to spin, but he did not reveal the secret to getting it from the 7:00 to 1:00 push.

It is the same with the Fulcrum, everything Archer showed is correct and expected, but the secret to the reset has still not been fully disclosed yet.

I think too much time has been spent debating stuff that we already know about, it is the missing bit of the Jigsaw I feel the energy of this thread would be put to better use on.

Cheers

Sean.


Quote from: Rusty_Springs on June 18, 2008, 05:33:06 PM
Hi Sean
So your saying your wheel reacted just the way I said it would, ever weight to heavy or magnets to strong but how would I know that I never biult this wheel.
Oh and its ok to change as you go Sean but this is different because Archer said it already worked and he had the answer, he was going to stop big oil, why the need to change if you already have it.
I said earlier that using my trigate may work but then I remembered centrifugal force and I may have to take that statement back.
I have said from the start to only way this would work is with an electromagnet and then it would not be OU, from what I'm seeing and hearing this is looking like I was spot on.
Take Care All
Graham
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ramset

GRAHAM have you ever put your gates on a wheel with the exit pointing towards rotation? Maybe a stupid question but if your gates break the wall why not spin a wheel?   Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Rusty_Springs

Hi Sean
My comments in the last post were not a dig at you, you have did a great job biulding this wheel.
The only statement you made I didn't like was about changing half way through, the dig I made was at the people telling me to biuld this before I make comment because I couldn't know before I biuld it, but I did know why because I have commen sence.
Take Care and sorry again Sean
Graham

CLaNZeR

Hi Graham

I did not take it as personal dig mate, and what I say on here is not a personal dig at your opinions, you are more than welcome to express your opinons as well as anyone else is.

But you have to remember that the conclusions that have been aired in these threads from the common sense side of things could be aired by a million people, because they have been taught modern day Physics and can equate this to natural laws.

Every Project I have built and tried is not because I am DUMB!! , I look at the designs, weigh up the natural laws and half expect the idea I am just about to work on too indeed fail because I too know about the natural laws of things balancing out and I have not came up with any great ideas of my own to get around these natural laws. So I leave it to others to come up with the idea's and I am willing to try them out, from a hope point of view that someone has actually found a way around them!

People know this approach in the OU/FE community and accept that most ideas that people try will probably not work, but they still have hope.
The truth on the back of this thread is that people do not like Archers approach and he has got many back's up because of this. Where as with me I love too see characters like Archer around in the world and I am a great believer that it takes all sorts hehe  ;D ;D

Cheers

Sean.

P.S If someone told me that I could get the Tri-Gate Roller to go over 30 gates when I first started I would of laughed and not believed it. It is only because I built it and saw that it was possible that I then could believe it!






Quote from: Rusty_Springs on June 18, 2008, 06:02:48 PM
Hi Sean
My comments in the last post were not a dig at you, you have did a great job biulding this wheel.
The only statement you made I didn't like was about changing half way through, the dig I made was at the people telling me to biuld this before I make comment because I couldn't know before I biuld it, but I did know why because I have commen sence.
Take Care and sorry again Sean
Graham
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Rusty_Springs

Quote from: ramset on June 18, 2008, 05:59:35 PM
GRAHAM have you ever put your gates on a wheel with the exit pointing towards rotation? Maybe a stupid question but if your gates break the wall why not spin a wheel?   Chet

Hi Chet
The kick away is not the problem its the attract in and I have extended the attract in using shielding, I have to be honest I havn't worked on ever gate for a while now because I have been working on another gate.
I have always said everything is a trade off I love the kick from the Trigate but it looses just before you come in, the corner gate works best I think but I loose the big kick out, I can extend the trigate comming in but I loose a big kick going out, its all a trade off my next gate hopefully fixes those problems giving me the best of both worlds.
Take Care Chet
Graham