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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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shakman

Quote from: sm0ky2 on June 20, 2008, 01:13:20 PM
@ Shakman

Great drawings dude..

But umm,, (forgive me if you explained this earlier and i missed it)  What exactly is the purpose of 2 counter-rotating wheels on the same axis?


They are actually moving the wheel in the same direction. It's just that when observed from each side the are moving counter-rotationally.

So one side appears to be moving the wheel clockwise. Walk to the other side and it is moving counterclockwise. The idea is that you have double the firing positions without worrying as much about real-estate on the wheel.

It also means that the wheel can run balanced without requiring to be "sandwiched" between another board, great for observational purposes, especially when tinkering. We've all seen the trouble Archer has had to go to in order to show us what's happening inside the wheel (broken rods etc).

But I will say again, I am running a lot on assumptions. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to build/test right now so I thought I'd do the next best thing and do some concept work. It would be great if any builders out there could test some of my concepts out though.

Shakman

exxcomm0n

@ BATMAN

Give http://www.metacafe.com or https://upload.video.google.com a try.

I'm not sure of the requirements though.

The google thing needs a google account from what I see.
When I stop learning, plant me.

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6/20/08

         Any news yet?  CNN, CNBC, Bloomberg, etc, etc??

purepower

Quote from: exxcomm0n on June 20, 2008, 04:57:41 AM
Nope. Solar and wind energy production need this exact resource now dude.

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Wind farms can only feed back so much power to the grid man.
Wouldn't it be nice if during a time of excellent production they could run all the windmills instead of having to shut some down to stay within back feed guidelines?

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True 'nough (enough), but I'd rather a 4 outlet electrical box that could power 4 - 100w lamps for 20 hrs.

Size and convenience.

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Now you're using the grid as a battery, dude. But I shall never advocate complete cut off from the grid, if not for emergency purposes (but having your own cache serves the same emergency purpose sometimes), for selling power back to the grid (which comes with some not so insubstantial expense on the seller).

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The compressed air route is cool, but to leverage the great amount of electronic devices we already have, it has to power a generator to do so, and any sane generation supply design will have some sort of buffer or storage between it and the end device just to prevent spikes.

I want better batteries NOW.

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We need better batteries.

I hope this wasnt the nature of your response, but you really seem to be arguing with my suggestions.

I know storage systems are needed for solar and wind when the energy available changes, but I thought we were strictly talking FE, where the energy is free and constant.

And the small generator idea... I think you took "an AC outlet" as "a single AC outlet." Of course if the power is available for more, why not?

"Now you're using the grid as a battery, dude."

I know, reread my post and you will see I explain this:

Quote from: purepower on June 20, 2008, 03:50:32 AM

For the medium size home unit, I would design it to intentionally exceed your home needs and tie it into the grid. In this case, any additional energy generated is sold to the electric company so you will actually make money in the long run. This is done with current systems, such as solar. This way, the grid acts like a battery when the panels are producing more than you need; sell it when you have extra, buy it back when you need more. The catch is the electric company buys it for less than they sell it, so you still end up losing. Its like having a battery you have to pay to use, but never need to replace. It ends up being about the same in the long run, but if you are always selling, no disadvantage...


I agree with you on the batteries. A large capacity, quickly charging battery with no memory effect would be PERFECT. I thought this went without saying, and you wanted to discuss other possibilities/applications of excess FE.

As far as batteries go...

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7033406.PN.&OS=PN/7033406&RS=PN/7033406

-PurePower

RadiantLarry

EVEN after Magnacoaster, xpensif, and all the others. This. Amazing! WTG!


Hey Wannabe! (Wilbey to you guys, Wannabe to the people that whipped his immature butt on Tseungs thread:).