Roll on the 20th June

[greendoor]

First perpetual motion ...
Then go on to free energy...

It seems redundant - but do I have to be the one to point out that the Emperor's johnson is visible ...

Asking for Perpetual Motion is in fact asking for an Infinite Coefficient of Performance.  You are asking for zero watts input, with a finite amount of power output.  (Because unless you reduce all friction, you will get heat.  Heat is power is Watts.  Zero divided by anything is always infinite.

Whereas overunity means you put 1 watt in, you get more watts out. 

Why jump for the moon if you can't clear the fence?

The goal of any gravity or magnet wheel should be achievable overunity - preferably a CoP >3, because heatpumps already give us 3, and anything less is subject to measurement disputes.

Aiming for infinite COP is just crazy, imo.  Crazy is good, if you can make it work for you ...

Of course - if you can get CoP > 1, there is the potential to divert some of the output back into the input and achieve PM.  But that requires a seperate system - it is much easier to work on one system at a time. 

Sometimes you just have to prime the pump to get anything out of it ...

[exxcomm0n]

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@Exx

I heard it was a real story, could be wrong. Would I have saved myself the lecture if I had left that lil bit out? No hard feelings, its just that it wasnt the objective of my post...

-PurePower
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Probably not.
You know me.

I like the story and have heard it many a time, it's just I've heard it many different ways.

I did find this @ snopes

http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/hoecrash.asp

and this on google

http://www.telegram.com/static/stucktruck/stories/stories.html

and finally this

http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid1_gci1083323,00.html

"In the past, replication often caused visions of slow behemoths attempting to traverse a tunnel even though their cargo was too tall. I'm sure you've heard the urban legend about the little girl who suggested deflating the tires of a semi-truck to lower it just enough to pass under an overpass for which it was just a few inches shy of clearing."

I get the K.I.S.S principle, but I like non mythical ways of representing it.

No worries though man.

I mean, aren't I supporting a theory that is seen as mythical?

[fletcher]

I think greendoor that most would probably agree that the dictionary definition of Perpetual Motion is nonsense [nonscience] & that the target is actually OU or bust, via one system, as you say, or bleed-off energy & feed it back in again [prime it] as Input Energy to self sustain.

[tekylife]

So the new videos from Archer were made to address the "it accelerates" claims he made on the 19th.

I think he is missing the point of the remarks we made: the device has to run a full cycle by itself before OU can be claimed

@ Archer : It could do 90% of a cycle people would still bash saying 1) it's not OU , 2) Where is the PM if it stops ?

I think the best way to go with the build now that we're past the previous letdowns is this : Shock and Awe. No need to upload tons of video explicating the device before you blow the truth in front of the eyes of the naysayers. Show the PM, the device running more than 1 cycle by itself.
Explain later - I'm assuming no further tricks will be needed with all the details you've already revealed.

Also, assuming you don't need to buy new pieces and you can still eat for a few days, don't you think the job will come to you if you achieve this ? And don't forget all the web donations once someone replicates. I mean : you know it works, now that the lever fiasco is out of the way you could get that working in no time right ? Those two days you need to finish it will pay for themselves

[gwhy!]

for all those that are intrested, the graph below show some forces produced by a 5 tri-gate array the red line shows the forces when using 6mm nuts the blue line is 10mm steel balls.