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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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Rusty_Springs

Hi Fletcher
First I would like to say I have never said the Trigate is OU, it has done alot of test by many people to prove one way or the other and by the test it would seem it is but I would not claim it is for one reason, no matter what it shows it still can't do usefull work(except a toy car track) and that to me is the only way to prove something is OU.
As Gwhy and Sean have pointed out there is a dead zone right at the start of the gate, in this dead zone there is no movement by the roller magnet, to get it moving you have to move it just past this dead zone and it will attract into the gate then it kicks out, if it wasn't accelerating it would like all magnetic systems pull back once just past the magnetic array but it doesn't it not only moves past the array but it moves a far distance past the array.
This should prove the Trigate accelerates if it doesn't then your one of two people I know that have seen and tested the Trigate that don't beleave it does what is claimed of it but you wouldn't have tried the experiments so you havn't seen what it does and how it reacts, remember all I have claimed is I designed a permanent magnet gate, if you choose to beleave this or not thats up to you.
Take Care Fletcher
Graham

szylaila

found this interesting:

Falling ball wheel with soft padding on one end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zykButGc22U

and

Falling ball wheel with hard surface on both ends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1P3TGhJiF0

tekylife

@ Archer : another allocation idea : a bigger SD card so that you can record longer than 1:20.

Nice New Video and Diagrams !

JohnGalt_USA

Quote from: ChrisBLong on June 27, 2008, 10:02:20 AM
Here's an analogy which might show where I'm coming from - I feel like I've been watching a full-on film crew shooting a complex action scene, but I've noticed that there's no film in the cameras.  I felt I should really tap someone on the shoulder and let them know. 

The tripods are also missing. :)

fletcher

@Rusty .. yes, I mentioned in previous posts that you make no claim of OU - this seems to me to be an exercise in closing the loop, to cover frictional, heat & sound losses - if there is extra velocity/momentum available at the start/end point then some of that could be used for doing work [that would be OU].

FWIW, I think the distances the rotor rolls after exiting the array could be misleading the interpretation & significance of the data [& no, I haven't done any experiments with tri-gates] - IMO, as I said, the energy at the start & the energy at the end [in the form of Momentum aka velocity & Ke] is what's important, rather than distance [though that's interesting] - the reason I say that the amounts of energy is what matters is because energy is the capacity to do work - N.B. even covering ordinary system losses of friction, heat & sound vibrations etc is the capacity to do some work, but not what we would define as useful work.

I also think that if a pendulum can swing higher [have more Pe] after traveling thru the array, than swinging from the same start height [with no magnetic ability, same mass & center of gyration] then it should be a relatively simple matter to calculate from observation the losses each cycle due to friction, windage etc & then to adjust the strength of the magnets etc to make up theses losses, to have a perpetually swinging pendulum ?!?

I know you guys are working hard to find a bullet-proof way to identify & demonstrate the possibilities, & I appreciate that.