Roll on the 20th June

[purepower]

Hi Folks,   just a general comment.
Has anyone else noticed PP says "stick it up your ass" an awful lot ?

Regards Bren.

Ive said it twice. Can you think of a better place to put shit? And I thought I said dont reply unless you had anything of value. Seriously, after that long post to try to end disputes and meaningless fights, you are still so pathetic you must post one of your little jabs. And that was really the best you could come up with? If youre going to make an immature ass of yourself and try to start a fight after I try to make peace with everyone, you should really try to come up with something better than that...

-PurePower

[exxcomm0n]

Ive said it twice. Can you think of a better place to put shit? And I thought I said dont reply unless you had anything of value. Seriously, after that long post to try to end disputes and meaningless fights, you are still so pathetic you must post one of your little jabs. And that was really the best you could come up with? If youre going to make an immature ass of yourself and try to start a fight after I try to make peace with everyone, you should really try to come up with something better than that...
-PurePower

@ Pure

I can understand why you would say such a thing after you HAVE gone to a decent length to cut down the "interpersonal noise", and I know personally how I have yet to pass a jibe @ me unanswered, yet I will make you this deal bud.

If you won't (rise to minor jabs), I won't.

Kosher?

@ all

For those from the US, HAPPY 4th KIDS! (and be careful w/ the fireworks!)

For the rest of the world, I wish that the reason we (USA) celebrate the 4th (the idea all men should have equal rights and that less government is better) makes a quick and long lasting return to the USA and all other nations, regions, or locations on the earth, or anywhere else that man lives!

I think FE would be a BIG step in realizing my wish above.

(I hope to finish my HHO stuff today so I can start focusing on the wheel solely soon!)

[purepower]

@ Pure

I can understand why you would say such a thing after you HAVE gone to a decent length to cut down the "interpersonal noise", and I know personally how I have yet to pass a jibe @ me unanswered, yet I will make you this deal bud.

If you won't (rise to minor jabs), I won't.

Kosher?

Its like the old saying "the nail that sticks out is the one that gets hammered down." I thought most people would act civil after the long post. The one that didnt I felt the urge to "hammer down." It was petty and against what Im trying to accomplish, so...

DEAL.

-PurePower

PS I think if we all make this deal with each other, the thread would benefit greatly. Anyone else care to join in the pact?

PSS HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA!

[Newtonian God]

Archer posted this claim on his website but I am pretty sure that it has been removed. It's Archer's claim that he had already done it that attracted all the attention that he is getting here. He also mentions it in the Free Energy Truth interview. There is a link to the interview in the very first post of this thread. Here it is: http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2008/04/free-energy-on-june-20th-fe-truth-world.html

I would highly recommend that all of Archer's supporters take the time to read the interview again to refresh their memories of how this thread got started.


Here is an excerpt from the interview:

FE Truth: Do you claim to break any laws of physics with this device?

Archer: Laws of physics? No, Newton's "laws" yes.


FE Truth: One of the best things you've done is not asked for any money or investment in this, so right away you've separated yourself from a lot of suspicion over fraud. What do you say to the remaining sceptics who will no doubt be saying you don't have free energy?

Archer: Solar is free energy, we do not doubt the sun?, wind is free energy, we do not doubt the wind, gravity is, of all three the only constant free energy, does the sceptic doubt gravity?

"If you patent any free energy device, you replace one tyrant scumbag with another. " - Archer Quinn


FE Truth: What's your engineering / technical background? How did you get into all this?

Archer: I was born with a unique ability to solve puzzles, especially physics or engineering puzzles, I left home and school when I was 13, yet have held around 10 management positions, the last of which was in electrical and mechanical engineering, so I guess the proof is in those facts, for without the paper one has to prove one's self far beyond that of scholastic paper.


FE Truth: Does the device have a name or model number?

Archer: I guess if there is a god, to give a person the ability to end global warming and destroy the filth that control the planet in one single move, would be somewhat of a miracle so I nicknamed it the "Sword of God", though spare me any religious rhetoric, I simply believe it a little unusual that I have never found anything I can't do, and almost every step I take refers at some point to something I have done or learned in the past. So I think taking the credit personally may be a bit of a stretch.


FE Truth: Is this something you stumbled upon or did you "go after" free energy as an objective from the start?

Archer: I can usually build a better mouse trap (any device) given 10 mins to 24 hours tops, no matter what it is. Free energy devices? I built the first petrochemical free fuelled car over 25 years ago, by building a better mousetrap of a version that almost worked, however to release it would have every tree on the planet gone in a matter of months so I had to let it go, but that was my first. The cost of LPG rising faster than petrol, specifically after going with LPG vehicle at a higher cost just pissed me off way too much.


FE Truth: Will anyone get an advanced preview of the machine?

Archer: There will be disks sent out with video and full instruction the day before to several groups in the event the site is shut down, but as of the 20th of June it will be available for viewing by anyone.


FE Truth: How many working prototypes currently exist?

Archer: The first one I destroyed (the 12 volt one) Toys do not impress me, nor do they impress the public looking for something that can be used straight away, not some fairy story of down the track. There are several sets of plans with friends, and some with people who don't even know they have them, but this will be the only working one as of that date, and once you read and see the full build, you will note that any basic welder or mechanic or good handyman can reproduce the effect.

"I intend to cleanse this planet of this filth and end global warming all in one day and one single action." -Archer Quinn

Sorry Newt,  this do not say that this prototype was a working perpetual motion machine unless I'm missing something ( like a whole sentence of maybe even a paragraph ) maybe you need to re-read it with a sensible head on, so what I ask originally still stands. And I think it was on his web site that he actually said that the toy wasn't OU, if like you say has now been removed from his site then we will never know for sure so there is no point keep banging on about it.

Seriously gwhy, what do you think that he is referring to here, a working prototype of a toaster? Let's not get caught up in the semantics of what the device is being called. I assume that everyone here knows what we are talking about. The entire point of the interview is to question a guy who claims that he has built a working perpetual motion machine or whatever you want to call it. The bottom line is that Archer claimed that he had built a device that (once you got it spinning) would run continuously under it's own power until the parts wore out. (Again, he was not saying that he was "trying" to build it, he said that he had already successfully built it.) This claim peaked my interest as I am sure it did to most of the people following this thread. If Archer had simply claimed that he had some ideas on how to build a perpetual motion machine he would probably not have even been a blip on anyone's radar.

Now that Archer's attracted all this attention, and now that he has failed to deliver what he promised on June 20th, it's time for Archer to come clean or explain what went wrong. I am not cutting Archer any slack until he provides a reasonable explanation. Regardless of how much you admire Archer for what his is trying to build now he needs to be held accountable for his incredible claims!

--
Newtonian God
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." William Shakespeare  

[shakman]

@All

Happy 4th of July to all of my friends from the US and A (to borrow from Borat).

I will make a deal on the pact if Newt does 

Seriously gwhy, what do you think that he is referring to here, a working prototype of a toaster?

@ Newt

This question has already been answered and the answer is in the very "evidence" you yourself provided. I hate to continue making noise in this thread but I know you won't bother going back and looking for the answer I have already provided as it does not support your argument so here goes one more time for the dummies:

Archer claimed to have a 12v, non OU model using electro-magnetics. This model proved his concept. What he is building now is a version which does not rely on any outside power source. His reasoning is correct. If he can create the effect of shifting the weight of a wheel to achieve continual motion with electromagnets, with a bit of tweaking it is very likely he can reproduce the same effect with permanent magnets. After all, one of the biggest secrets is in the leverage - getting the rods to shift, moving the weight. Permanent magnets should be able to achieve this too.

So no matter how many times you try to claim that Archer lied about ever having a perpetual motion machine, anyone that actually bothered to read the very article you published as evidence will see that he never made claim to having a working OU device, but merely stated that he has built a model which required power input and this model proved his concept.

If you still can't see that, you never will so please move on to another thread where you may actually be able to contribute something worthwhile and not just ask the same questions over and over without ever bothering to read the answers, which are just conclusions you youself should have been able to make if you are as clever as you'd like people to believe you are.

Please only bother adding to this thread if you bother to open your eyes and your ears. The constant repetition is making me feel like I'm watching Happy Days repeats all over again - and you've already jumped the shark a few times Newt.

shakman